We changed back to winter time last night. Who else changed time, too? Is there anyone, amongst us, who doesn't? I know, for instance, that most part of Eastern Australia has standard time all year round.

Yep, just changed all the clocks in the house.  Sunset will now be as I leave work.  :P  This makes for very short days of daylight.

Here in the US, Arizona and Hawaii are the only states that don't observe daylight saving time.  (But the Navajo reservations in Arizona do observe DST, making it very confusing when driving thru the state!).

Next year (2007) the US will extend DST by 3 weeks.  We will start it 2 weeks earlier and end it one week later.

Our clocks went back an hour here on the east coast.  It already feels like winter here!  It has been unseasonably cold here in NY and now with it getting darker ealier.....the only thing that is bright is the hope of having a little,I mean a sprinkling of snow for the holidays! ;)

yes we had an extra hour in bed this morning in England the UK :D

Ahhh longer nights. Early darkness. What more could a heliophobic goth ask for?  ;)

Honestly, Daylight Savings was such a stupid idea. It served its purpose for when it was needed. I really have no clue why it is still observed to this day.

DST was designed to save energy.  Statistics show that it is still effective in doing that, particularly in the more northern areas.  In fact is is so effective i n saving energy, the US is extending it by 3 weeks next year.

I was hard to come home tonight as the sun was setting.... sigh... I'm one that would prefer to stay on DST as long as possible.

We changed time. Now the dark seems to come much sooner.  :-/
I think this turning clock business is a bit annoying. Yesterday when I was in the city, half of the clocks at public places were still showing summer time.

actually, we changed back about a month and.......2 weeks ago.

i'm with you Galadriel!! for a week after that you keep asking "is watch changed?" when you ask for time.......it's so annoying!!

Just to add to the topic, i have noticed my hair looks so good in winter as the cold air seems to smooth the cuticle and gives me great shine however i never have my hair down outside from 1st October to the 21st March as it would get in a state.

However i love winter because i love updos and my hair benifits from this greatly.  :D

Although i do need extra oil and shea butter in my hair then in summer.

Some of you may know that in real life, I am a software programmer.  Specifically, I develop software for payroll, benefits and personnel applications (and also do some general ledger and accounts payable work).  One of my applications is a time clock application.  The time changes create havoc with time clock programs, especially in the fall when the clocks are turned back.  Many of my customers are 24/7 and have employees who work over the time change.  My software makes the appropriate adjustment for the number of hours worked if someone was clocked in before 2am and clocks out after 2 am.  

My biggest problem is how to handle a person that clocks in between 1 am and 2 am.  Did they clock in before or after the time change?  The equipment they are using to do the clocking does not differentiate between daylight and standard time!  

My question to each of you...... if you are told to report to work at 1:30 am on the Sunday that the clocks are turned back, would you show up at 1:30 BEFORE the time change, or 1:30 AFTER the time change?

A sample of my logic follows. In Finland, I think, one was supposed to turn the clock at 4.00 am.

If I was told to show up at any time before 4 am, I would arrive earlier because at that time the time has not been officially changed yet. 3.30 am, for example, would signify the time before turning the clocks -at that point in time no one has done anything to their clocks, and 3.30 am still means daylight time.

If I was told to show up at 4.00 am, I would come later because when the clock FIRST turns 4.00 am, you are supposed to turn it back, which in effect signifies that at that point of time it really wasn't 4 am but 3 am. The "real" 4 am is the second one. This conclusion is also supported by the thought that the first 4 am is anomalous because at that point you are supposed to "correct" it, while when the clock turns 4 am again, you aren't supposed to do anything.

If I was told to show up at any time after 4.00 am, I'd follow the new time.

The problem is, of course, that this whole thing is technical while our lives are lived linearly. Though the clocks turn back, our lives don't, and this creates the employee problem. So, I'd say that the best solution to this discrepancy requires adding another principle: an employee should not be punished because the clocks move however they will. Therefore, if solution a) means that the employee will "lose" an hour in her payroll though she was present, that is not right. It is a lesser evil to use solution b) that may give the employee an extra hour. Besides, she has earned it by tolerating the general chaos that is resulted by messing with all those clocks.

In any case, it'd be a mess. At least, now my poor brain is a mess. Whew.

EDIT: corrected the most obvious proof of my brain having turned into porridge and changed employers to employees.  >:x )

Galadriel wrote on Nov 1^st, 2006 at 6:06am:

In any case, it'd be a mess. At least, now my poor brain is a mess. Whew.

::hee hee:: Now you know how I feel!  I agree with your logic and that is how I have the time clock programmed, but others are arguing differently (however I feel their logic is flawed  ;) )