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Dec 22nd, 2002 at 2:50pm
 
Has anyone else tried the "no shampoo" thing in the book Curly Girl? 

I have to say I was skeptical, but since I usually only washed my hair once a week, I figured it couldn't hurt to try it.  Two and a half weeks later, all I can say is, WOW!

My hair is so much less tangled now.  And shiny!  And I can wear it down all day, everyday, and not stress over how I'm going to untangle it that night.

My husband is so impressed by this that he's started it - and his hair only has a little bit of wave to it (and you can only tell because it's shoulder length Smiley )
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Reply #1 - Dec 22nd, 2002 at 3:03pm
 
I love the Curly Girl routine! XD I've been doing it since about... mid-September. I even got my boyfriend to start doing it, though he's juuust about as curly as I am. Wink

It's improved the condition of my hair /dramatically/... and decreased my amount of fall-out, though that could be partially because one of the conditioners I use is designed to do just that. Wink The increase in the strength of the strands is amazing,  too,  and they just get stronger as I continue to use products containing protein.

You gotta love being able to /pull/ on a shed strand of hair quite a bit before it finally snaps. Grin
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Reply #2 - Dec 24th, 2002 at 2:49pm
 
What is this method you're talking about?  I have loved the improved strength and texture and appearance of my hair since I started using Ouidad products and I have gone to their salon a few times for the best haircut ever (I will not go anywhere else anymore) - but I never heard of a no shampoo method?
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Reply #3 - Dec 24th, 2002 at 3:40pm
 
The no-shampoo routine explained in Curly Girl, by Lorraine Massey, has you using conditioner and friction to clean your scalp, instead of shampoo, and has you wash in a manner that doesn't disturb the natural lay of the hair. You also do not use a brush or a comb, or a ton of styling products -- if you follow the routine, all you need is gel, if that. And most silicones are not something you want to use if you're following this routine, unless they're water soluble, or maybe not even then. Since you aren't using shampoo, the non-water soluble silicones can build up.

The conditioner you use is supposed to contain protein, humectants, emollients, and... uhm... I forget the fourth thing. ^^; You cleanse by putting conditioner on your fingers, and then basically giving yourself a nice massage over your entire scalp. Then you rinse out, and condition the length of your hair. If you need to, you can either not rinse all your conditioner out, or apply more after the rinse -- Ms. Massey recommends using regular conditioner as a leave-in, since most leave-ins are not moisturizing enough.

Since I've started following this routine, the health of my hair has improved dramatically. It's not as dry, it's much stronger, and I have less fall out. (But that's partially because the conditioner I cleanse with is designed to prevent fall out...) I saw results within a week, literally. And other people started noticing within about three weeks. And I gotta admit... it's cheap!

$10 for the book, and then $5 every 6 weeks for another bottle of my regular conditioner (I go through it fast.), and I haven't used more than... half of the bottle of the conditioner I cleanse with (which was $17)... and my gel costs me $1.50, and will probably last as long as the cleansing conditioner. I like having nice looking hair, but I have better things (like books!) to spend my free money on. Wink
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Reply #4 - Dec 25th, 2002 at 1:41am
 
Yes, I have been using it every morning.  I shampoo my hair once a week.  Because I go swimming.  Anyway, I'm pleased with it. It definitely has improved the strength of my hair.
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Reply #5 - Dec 31st, 2002 at 11:27pm
 
I haven't totally managed to follow the whole thing yet - I'm too addicted to getting it untangled before going to bed  Wink

But, it has now reached a point where I can comb out the tangles in a couple of minutes, rather than taking a brush to it for half an hour.

I'm still using plain old Suave naturals conditioner, too - I used to go through 2 bottles of shampoo for every bottle of conditioner, so when it went on sale, I stocked up, and now have 5 huge unopened bottles left before I can buy something else.

Whoever mentioned Suave's aloe gel - that stuff is awesome.  I also use Johnson&Johnson's kids spray-in detangler....a life saver on windy days.
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Reply #6 - Jan 30th, 2003 at 5:33am
 
Do all of you comb your hair, or do you brush it as well when it's dry? I find combing and finger-combing to hold the curls for a longer time, because the day after I wash it my hair is wavy again and I brush it to smooth out the kinks. Also, what do you use to hold your curls for a longer time?
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Reply #7 - Jan 30th, 2003 at 3:46pm
 
The only time I comb my hair is when I'm going to wear it braided -- I get it wet, add some extra conditioner with a pinch of sweet almond oil (because I have a little lying around.), then I comb it out and braid it.

I don't comb it dry nor when I want to wear it curly, and I never brush it. To help hold my curls, I sometimes use a little gel. Weirdly enough, I've found that using one of my regular conditioners as a leave-in works just as well as gel does for me.
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Reply #8 - Jan 31st, 2003 at 12:44pm
 
Oh ok - and how long is your hair? Because as my hair grows longer I'm desperately trying to hang on to my curls but they're disappearing! By the time it hits my waist my hair is almost straight  Undecided.
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Reply #9 - Jan 31st, 2003 at 1:10pm
 
I just measured yesterday. It's 24.5" inches. Grin

It's /very/ curly when it's shorter -- when it's around my shoulders, it curls up past my chin in tight ringlets. In the dry winter cold, it curls up to give me about a 4"-5" spring. (If I pull it straight, then measure the difference between where it was when it was curly vs. pulled straight, I get that.) Once it's warmer and more humid, it's more along the lines of 6"-8".

I get more curl out of my hair when I scrunch it, especially when I've gotten it soaking wet. Have you tried that?
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Reply #10 - Jan 31st, 2003 at 1:42pm
 
No, I haven't tried scrunching it, how do you do that?

You are so lucky! Mine is only 18 inches.. every day I regret the fact that I cut it! My hair isn't really curly though, I just say it is Tongue, it's just *extremely* wavy so the curls are pretty cool. Only they don't stay long. So it's in between curly and wavy. hehe! I went through this "must be straight" phase but hey, we have something that's different every single day and they have to live through the same exact thing all the time! I would get so frustrated I'd cut it off!
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Reply #11 - Jan 31st, 2003 at 11:01pm
 
Scrunching is grabbing handfuls of your hair at the ends -- well, more like gathering the ends in your palm. -- then pushing it all up against your scalp. I usually do this with a towel when my hair is wet, to dry it.

I've been deliberately growing my hair out for... Uhm... *thinks* Almost three years. Only really been taking good care of it for a year, so it's amazing that I don't have a ton of split ends.
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Reply #12 - Feb 2nd, 2003 at 8:20pm
 
I have been on the CG train and fallen off it many times over now.  I think that Lorraine Massey brings to light many good principles regarding the care of curly hair, but I don't necessarily think that these principles will apply to every single curly girl out there.

Because the full-fledged CG routine didn't work well for my 3A hair type, I have chosen to modify the parts that did work.

I now follow a CWC routine (condition, wash, condition).  Prior to applying my shampoo, I coat the length of my hair with conditioner... I then shampoo only the scalp.  I follow up with another dose of conditioner.

I also have not completely gone silicone-free.  I have never really seen the point of using a silicone free routine if you incorporate clairfying into your regimine.  I clarify about twice a month now.  It seems to be the best compromise for my hair.

I hope that this helps someone else out there who may not like everything about teh CG routine, but would still like to apply some of the basic principles.

Best to you all...

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Reply #13 - Mar 3rd, 2003 at 11:04pm
 
Do you curly-heads find it easy to leave your hair down whenever you feel like it?
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Reply #14 - Mar 4th, 2003 at 4:15am
 
If I intend to leave it down - then yes, I usually have no problem - given the products I use and how great they have been to my hair.  If I want to wear it down after I have worn it up - then usually I have to wash it again - but it's also probably due to be washed then anyway since i usually only put it up the day after or two days after I've washed it (I wash my hair no more than every other day - and typically only every 3 days because otherwise it gets too dry and strips the hair of too much of its natural oils).
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