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Those Tiny Little Knots (Read 31190 times)
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Those Tiny Little Knots
Jan 26th, 2003 at 3:42am
 
I have been searching for a solution to this question for years now, to no avail.  Anyone have a cure for those tiny little *painful* knots you get at your hairline other than shaving your neck?  This problem just seems to get worse and worse the longer my hair grows.  My hair didn't knot at all until it got past my waist :/
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Re: Those Tiny Little Knots
Reply #1 - Jan 26th, 2003 at 8:40am
 
The only time I ever get knots is when my hair hasn't been conditioned properly, so this might be the problem, you're not conditioning in that area well enough? I'm sorry  ??? I'm not quite sure, I've never heard of those knots! Are they in the back of your head?
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Re: Those Tiny Little Knots
Reply #2 - Jan 26th, 2003 at 8:48am
 
No, I condition the heck outta my hair.  Yes, they are at the neck in the back of my head, right up close to the hairline.
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Reply #3 - Jan 26th, 2003 at 12:04pm
 
I get them too...they almost bring you to tears trying to get them out Cry.   When I do get them I use olive oil or conditioner to get them out.  I use really liberal amounts so it works like a lubricant so I can work the knots out a little at a time with minimal damage to my hair and minimal tears for me....Hope this will help.
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Reply #4 - Jan 26th, 2003 at 7:45pm
 
You're right, they hurt a *lot* trying to get them out.

I'll give your suggestion a try when I'm combing them out right before I wash my hair, thanks!  I'm still hoping to find some solution that will work when I'm just combing it out tho, with the intention of restyling it or whatever.  Lemme know if you have any suggestions :)
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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2003 at 3:50pm
 
My recommendation:  Johnson & Johnson's kid's spray-in detangler.  The generic versions are almost as good, and considerably less expensive.  This is usually found near the baby shampoo.   Wink

With curly hair, anything to get knots out is a plus.  As a little kid, my grandmother always used Avon's one-step on my hair - which I'm not sure they even carry any more.  But the J&J stuff is easier and less messy.

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Reply #6 - Jan 28th, 2003 at 12:09am
 
I like the detangler idea...can you use it on dry hair????  I don't have any kids so I'm at a disadvantage when it comes to kid products.....I know the old detangler products (Mom tried several on me...not much help) had to be used on wet hair...

Thanks for the tip though I'll try anything to help get those knots out..this time of year with scarves and turtle necks the problem gets worse!

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Reply #7 - Jan 28th, 2003 at 1:41pm
 
I have the same problem, except usually when I wear a top with a collar or if I sleep with it down.  Now I make it a point to wear it up when I have to wear a collar and make sure  I braid it before going to bed. 

to get them out,  i just patiently work at them with a large tooth comb, from the bottom up.  Gradually, they work themselves out!  Good luck!!
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Reply #8 - Jan 28th, 2003 at 4:02pm
 
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I like the detangler idea...can you use it on dry hair????  I don't have any kids so I'm at a disadvantage when it comes to kid products.....



Yes, you can use the spray-in stuff on dry hair.

I don't have kids either, but originally bought it during a period when my allergies were out of control.  Even washing my hair in the sink and rinsing 4 times, as soon as my damp hair touched my skin, I broke out.  So I went looking for hypoallergenic shampoo & conditioner.  Baby shampoo was the only thing I found - and they didn't make baby conditioner at the time  Angry but did make the detangler.

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Re: Those Tiny Little Knots
Reply #9 - Sep 26th, 2004 at 1:37pm
 
I don't get painful knots at the back of my neck, but the hair at the back of my neck does still tend to mat, which is the only part of my head where the hair still does that. There's also lots of breakage and splits. I also have observed that I have some weird wavy/curly action going on there, and had been assuming that this was a result of some sort of mixed hair type at the back of my neck.

BUT...

During a S&D this morning, I noticed that all the wavy and curly hairs were sections at the ends of normal straight hairs. So this is all damaged hair, stretched out by detangling, and the waviness and curliness is causing it to mat and require frequent detangling, which causes more wavy/curly sections to form...

I clipped out the wavy pieces, and trimmed the curlies back, too. It was hard to bring myself to do this, as the hair at the back of my neck is so much shorter than the rest of my hair. Hopefully, this will work out for the best, and I'll start to see some growth, though some of the wavies are so close to the scalp that I can't get them in front of my face to see and clip them.

This explains something else, too. I have been noticing that locks that thin to nothing are only around the hairline, and there is also some damage on the surface, which appears as frizzies on the surface of my hair. But my hair is straight, why should a frizzy curl up? Because it was stretched out and broken in detangling, is why. So theoretically, trimming the last half or full inch of a frizzy hair that shows atypical curling should allow it to grow out and stop curling up.

I need a hair minion to do these things for me.
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Re: Those Tiny Little Knots
Reply #10 - Mar 16th, 2005 at 9:49pm
 
Mmmm, hair minion...  Wonder if the cat can be trained to hold scissors?

I had that problem a lot when I wore collared shirts.  Seems to have gone away since I wear lower necks and don't tie my bandanas too tightly, though it seems to crop up now and again with low braids worn without a scunchie.
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Reply #11 - Dec 4th, 2005 at 4:32am
 
I wanted to bump this up because I never had a problem with these knots....until now.

What causes these things!  Youch!
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Reply #12 - Dec 4th, 2005 at 6:56pm
 
I wish I knew the answer to that, Panpeus, because I get them too.  Tongue
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Re: Those Tiny Little Knots
Reply #13 - Dec 4th, 2005 at 7:02pm
 
I get the tiny knots at the nape, where my hair is a bit curlier.  The hair rubs on collars, etc and manages to tie itself into knots.
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Reply #14 - Dec 5th, 2005 at 3:30am
 
I get knots like this all down the length of my hair if I wear velvet and leave my hair down.
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