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Reply #15 - Jun 19th, 2004 at 8:32pm
 
There are so many factors to consider regarding ingredients in your hair care products.  Each person's hair has different needs based on the age of the hair, the thickness, the type of water used (soft, hard, or well water).

Some silicones are more prone to building up on the hair which can prevent moisture from getting into the hair shaft.  This causes crunchy ends.  Water soluable silicones will not build up on the hair but still give you the benefits of smoothing the cuticle and locking in moisture until you wash your hair again.

We each have to decide what works for our own hair.
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Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2004 at 7:02am
 
I didn´t quite get everything you said, but I think you misunderstood me a bit. I´m not saying that "natural is good", I agree with you that there are good sides in the silicones as well. But - in my opinion - the products which include silicones shouldn´t be used daily. Usually (not always) the cheap market products do not include anything but water, 2-3 types of silicones, parfumes and colors. These products give you impression of silky, shiny and healthy hair, but they do not really condition hair, they just cover it with a silky and shiny plastic.

The products, which include both conditioning ingredients and silicones, aren´t so bad. I avoid silicones in shampoos because of that scalp thing I told before. I usually use silicone-free conditioners, but I do sometimes use those with silicones. I want to be sure that my hair is in good condition, instead of looking like that. For example most Redken products include silicones, but they are still very effective to my hair.
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Reply #17 - Jun 20th, 2004 at 7:26am
 
Well, like BR said, it's different for everyone.
Biochemically ther isn't much difference between the "professional" brands and the drgustore brands. I've had good luck with some of both
Redken is a nice line, but not so great for me. Did you try th "So long" line? I tried it and it left my hair a sticky mess. Anyway, I've gotten hooked on Humectress and I have good redults from that. For shampoo I use Jaason dandruff relief, which stinks horribly, but I have eczema on my scalp and it makes it go away. Make my scalp feel really nice too.
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Reply #18 - Jun 20th, 2004 at 12:57pm
 
Actually, I have not tried the Redken So Long at all (my hair is still so short  Wink) but I like Redken´s Extreme, All Soft and Smooth Down lines very much, although all shampoos and conditioners include silicones, so I use them only once in a while. (The Smooth Down Butter Treat mask is very good by the way, and so is the Extreme Cat reconstructor.) I love Tigi Bed Head Moisture Maniac shampoo and conditioner, no cones and God they make my hair feel good!  Cheesy Very moisturizing and no crunching anymore. L´Anza´s Be Long Strenghten is also deeply loved here (no cones).

Humectress and Jason are not sold here in Finland, so I don´t know anything about them.
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Reply #19 - Jun 20th, 2004 at 10:45pm
 
I've been using Redken's So Long shampoo & conditioner, but it hasn't been doing much for me. It's effective, but not worth the price in my opinion. The shampoo has one -cone (dimethicone, I think), but that's it.
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Reply #20 - Jul 2nd, 2004 at 4:30pm
 
I'm confused, if your hair likes -cones do you still get bulid-up?
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Reply #21 - Jul 2nd, 2004 at 5:19pm
 
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I'm confused, if your hair likes -cones do you still get bulid-up?


Probably, but at a lesser rate than other hair.
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Reply #22 - Jul 2nd, 2004 at 8:24pm
 
Some hair (like mine) responds well to -cones up to a certain point. Since I need help to make my hair shine in the evenings, I use -cone-filled (coniferous?) styling products. If I do this for several weeks, I'll get lacklustre hair. That's where the magic of vinegar does the trick!  Grin

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Reply #23 - Jul 3rd, 2004 at 1:31am
 
A good clarifying will do wonders for your hair, won't it??!!
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Reply #24 - Jul 10th, 2004 at 4:10pm
 
Absolutely! I love my stinky vinegar!! I use it once a week nowadays.

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Reply #25 - Jul 29th, 2004 at 4:16pm
 
Now I'm confused-my hair seems to like cones, If I
don"t use them it gets dry and tangly.  But I don't
want to cause build-up on my scalp caused by my
favorite shampoos.  Would a good vinegar rinse
take care of any scalp build-up, or a hot jojoba treatment?
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Reply #26 - Jul 29th, 2004 at 7:08pm
 
Vinegar rinses or a clarifying shampoo usually takes care of any build up that might occur.  -Cones are not all bad - they do a lot for hair that is damaged or easily tangles.  Just be sure to eliminate the build up and condition well. 

The jojoba oil is a great moisturizer.  Some people report, however that their hair becomes sticky when jojoba oil is used after conditioners that have -cones, so you might watch for that and if it happens, only use the jojoba oil the day after conditoning.
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Reply #27 - Jul 29th, 2004 at 7:49pm
 
Thanks Bikerbraid!  I hate to give up using Pantene.
it seems to help keep my hair much smoother.
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Reply #28 - Jul 29th, 2004 at 8:12pm
 
I use Pantene and love it, and my hair is as fine as it comes, if not thin as yours.

I really think "scalp build-up" is a non-issue. I tend to get skin build-up on my scalp, regardless what products I use, that's just the way my scalp is. I control it by vigorous massage while I wash. If anybody was going to have problems with cone build-up on the scalp, it would be me. I don't observe any problem.

The skin on your scalp sheds constantly, so even if the conditioner contained cones that in some way bonded to the skin, the surface of your skin would be replaced every few days anyway.

I've read repeatedly that scalp build-up "might happen", not that people have actually experienced it. Even if someone said that it actually had happened to them, and hadn't been able to resolve it while using the product, so what? Every product isn't for everybody, and if some product stops working for you, it's ok to stop using it, no irreparable harm done.

It's ok to love Pantene. Roll Eyes
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Reply #29 - Jul 29th, 2004 at 10:48pm
 
I've never had a problem, either, and I've used (and
loved) Pantene for years.  I just make sure to occasionally switch to a clarifying shampoo or vinegar
rinse.  What you said about scalp shedding makes
sense.  I think you're right.
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