LongLocks HairSticks Boutique

  Welcome, Guest. Please Login
 
  HomeHelpSearchLogin  
 

LongLocks Boutique
Home
Hair Jewelry Catalog
How to Use Hair Sticks
Susan's Closet
LongLocks Collectors Club
Index of Hair Care Articles
Testimonials
Free Newsletter


L'Etoile Perdue by William Bouguereau







Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print
suggestions? (Read 7750 times)
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
suggestions?
Aug 9th, 2004 at 1:35pm
 
So, my hair is currently in a very, very short, styled, layered, slightly butch-looking cut after I hacked off a perm gone bad.  Roll Eyes

I've never gone from this short before and I was wondering what I should do with my hair as I grow it through the short stage...once I get down to shoulder length and longer I can just do a blunt cut and be done with it, but until then...right now it's cut in a way that I know as soon as it starts to grow out it's going to look shaggy and the temptation will be to just keep cutting it right back into the cut I have now just to keep it looking neat!

...but that basically defeats the purpose.

How can I get my hair through the in-between stage from super-short to shoulder length without just looking shaggy for a year? Ideas?

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
Babyfine
Emerald
****
Offline


I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Posts: 492
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #1 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 2:17pm
 
Would it be possible, as your hair grows, to get it to
morph into a chin length bob- all one length, and then
grow it straight down from there?  My hair was short and blunt in the back and layered in the front a year
ago and thats what I did.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #2 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 2:28pm
 
I doubt I could get it to "morph" without a few trims...the stylist layered it all around to make it look as cute as possible because I was slightly traumatized about having to hack ALL of it off...so it's basically layered all over every inch of my head!

What I'm wondering is, once it starts growing out and I go for my next trim, what, exactly, to ask for! Because it will be a shaggy mess, I'm pretty sure, but I'll only want to get half an inch off! Will I be able to do that without simply getting a shaggy mess half an inch shorter?   Tongue

I suppose these stylists know what they're doing, that IS what we pay them for. Here's crossing my fingers and hoping I can communicate to whoever does my next trim that I ONLY WANT HALF AN INCH OFF because I'm trying to grow it out...I don't want it chopped right back into the butch look I started out with.

At any rate, I'm definitely going to get it bobbed or blunt cut as soon as it's long enough so I don't have to deal with the royal pain of layers growing out! But right now it's layered everywhere, and very short.
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
bikerbraid
Shooting Star
*******
Offline


Life is short, Break the
rules

Posts: 6569
Bike Paths of the Midwest
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #3 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 3:08pm
 
I understand your issues.  I grew my hair out from a VERY short cut (less than 1 inch all over).  I have done this kind of grow out a couple of times.  I usually just try to go an extra week or two between my trims; telling the stylist each time that I am trying to grow out my hair to a single length.  This usually gives them the clue to trim the back more than the top or sides.  It is awkward for a while, but it is worth it.

Now is also a good time to decide if you want bangs/fringe or not.  It is much easier to grow them out with the rest of your hair, rather than later.

Good luck!
Back to top
 

bikerbraid
Global Salon Moderator
LongLocks HairSticks Boutique
http://www.longlocks.com
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.&&Life may not
WWW Bikerbraid  
IP Logged
 
eKatherine
Emerald
****
Offline



Posts: 426
Maine
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #4 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 3:42pm
 
Quote:
I suppose these stylists know what they're doing, that IS what we pay them for. Here's crossing my fingers and hoping I can communicate to whoever does my next trim that I ONLY WANT HALF AN INCH OFF because I'm trying to grow it out...I don't want it chopped right back into the butch look I started out with.

There's your problem: assuming that any given stylist
    1.) knows what they're doing,
    2.) that this has anything to do with what you told them to do, and
    3.) that they care in the slightest about helping you achieve your long-term hair goals.
Stylists consider their main purpose is to make you look as beautiful as possible right now.

This has the potential to be a big stumbling block on your journey to long hair.

There are going to be long periods of awkwardness in growing out short hair, and thanks to the layers that were meant to ease your discomfort, this awkward time of growing-out will last even longer.

I recommend headbands, barettes and other clips, scarves, and for really bad hair weeks, a wig. Perhaps even a long wig, to remind you about why you're growing out your hair.

And when you go to a stylist to get the bottom trimmed, don't let them talk you into doing anything at all to the top. No layers, no nothing. Walk in, describe to them the cut you want, and make sure they know that it's the only thing you're willing to pay for.
Back to top
 

...
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #5 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 4:59pm
 
Hmmmmmmm.

Would it be possible to just follow the half-inch rule? Like, wait three or four months and then go get a half-inch trimmed off all around...wait three or four more months and do the same? Would that look decent? I mean, obviously I want to get it all to one length eventually, but do I need to do it right now?

I guess the problem with asking for a little bit off all around is that they might cut it as short as it started. So I suppose the safe thing to do really IS ask them to only cut the bottom.

This will be interesting. I have no concept of how to handle hair this short. Time to get lots of scarves to cover my head.  Tongue

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
Babyfine
Emerald
****
Offline


I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Posts: 492
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #6 - Aug 9th, 2004 at 5:16pm
 
Oh no, I'm sorry, of course I meant that yes, it would
require some trims to go from what you have now to
a bob shape.   I agree with bikerbraid and ekatherine
to be very explicit in explaining to the stylist just what
your goal is.
You have one great advantage that I didn't have- You're
starting with healthy hair!!   That should be a big advantage to keeping it looking better during the awkward stages,between trims.
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #7 - Aug 12th, 2004 at 3:12pm
 
Another question...

About the suggestion for clips and barrettes, which I will probably need within the next few months when these bangs start hanging in my eyes...what kinds of clips/barettes will be nice to my hair? I have very fine, slippery hair and it doesn't hold clips very well...when it was longer I used to stuff as much hair as possible into one clip and then ended up pulling my hair really tight through the clip when I fastened it and pulling strands out with the clips. I need a better kind of clip to hold my hair in place. Any thoughts from the fine-haired crowd?

Incidentally I have the same problem with headbands...they don't stay in place without half a bottle of hairspray and a few pins. So again...any suggestions would be nice.

When I get back to Florida next week (where I'm attending university) I'm going to hit a bunch of stores anyway to buy stuff for my room...so I figured I'd look for some hold-these-bangs-out-of-my-eyes accessories while I'm at it. I just need to know what to look for.

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
bikerbraid
Shooting Star
*******
Offline


Life is short, Break the
rules

Posts: 6569
Bike Paths of the Midwest
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #8 - Aug 12th, 2004 at 6:16pm
 
Barrettes and clips for fine hair are hard to find.  I've heard some people talking about a rubbery coated clip that would work well, but I've not seen them anywhere myself. 

What to watch out for - anything that is sharp.  Many barrettes are metal with sharp edges.  These can be "softened" a bit with several coats of clear nail polish.  Also watch for springs or closures that will grab your hair and not let go.  I used to use these metal spring type clips that were great for holding my fine hair, but they had an overlapping joint on one end that would grab 2 or 3 hairs everytime.  I solved that with nailpolish as well.

Good luck on your search! (and good luck in school!)
Back to top
 

bikerbraid
Global Salon Moderator
LongLocks HairSticks Boutique
http://www.longlocks.com
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.&&Life may not
WWW Bikerbraid  
IP Logged
 
drummergirl08
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 154
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #9 - Aug 12th, 2004 at 10:27pm
 
my hair is fine and slippery too so i know what you mean!  like bikerbraid said, don't put stuff in your hair with teeth, but with thoose rubber thingy it often is sticky and breaks my hair.  my tip is to mix lemon juice and  aloe vera gel together and put it on the section of hair put then you do crossovers, um.

1-pull your bangs back
2-lightly put the mix in
3-take a bobby pin and insert it from the left (in a mirror)at an angle, to the right
4- do the same starting at the right
5- do the same as 3 except about a centimeter back
6-do the same as 4 like 5
7- kept srossing the pins until you get to the back of your bangs then mist with a light hairspray
Back to top
 
TeNnIsDaYnE08  
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #10 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 12:39am
 
Thanks for the suggestions!

I've never seen clips or barrettes with rubber, either, I'll have to look.

That crossover thing sounds a little complicated but I think I get the basic idea. I may post a pic of it when I try it and ask you if I'm doing it right, if that's OK...heheh...but then what do you do, just leave it like that or cover it up with a headband or what?

I'll be doing some definite experimenting next week. Whooo hooo!

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
Kate
Emerald
****
Offline



Posts: 328
Linköping, Sweden
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #11 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 1:59pm
 
I'm in the same boat, Ella - my hair is still above shoulder length. Today it went super-curly so it's only to the middle of my neck. It's taking FOREVER to grow!  Roll Eyes

My hair is pretty uneven too. I have only just recently been able to put it up in a ponytail - before that I did one of the following:
  • Half-updo, using a clip (but in your case it would have to be a rubber-backed clip, you could make your own using rubber caulking used for e.g. aquariums)
  • Half-updo, French braid over the crown and then clipped. This is super easy and tames those shorter ends. Or you could put it all up in a French braid if you like that look.
  • Part your hair normally, then do a French braid on each side. Clip them together in the back or use a ponytail-holder if your hair is long enough. I do this a lot, my sides usually fall out of a regular ponytail.

How long is your hair?

/Kate
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #12 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 5:26pm
 
Hahah...well, at the moment my hair is about 3 inches long. However, I will definitely keep your suggestions in mind for when it gets long enough to do something OTHER than comb it!   Grin   Thanks!

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
drummergirl08
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 154
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #13 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 6:04pm
 
oh don't worry, it really is quite east to do!
Back to top
 
TeNnIsDaYnE08  
IP Logged
 
Kate
Emerald
****
Offline



Posts: 328
Linköping, Sweden
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #14 - Aug 13th, 2004 at 6:51pm
 
Right, I saw another of your posts somewhere else where you mention the 3".  Undecided But it's growing out healthily!!

Anyway, you might still be able to practice your French braiding on your hair. Have you tried Alice bands?

/Kate
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #15 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 2:27am
 
Nope...enlighten me. What are Alice bands?

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
bikerbraid
Shooting Star
*******
Offline


Life is short, Break the
rules

Posts: 6569
Bike Paths of the Midwest
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 3:28am
 
As I understand, Alice bands are a type of headband.  Someone help me here - are they a fabric headband??
Back to top
 

bikerbraid
Global Salon Moderator
LongLocks HairSticks Boutique
http://www.longlocks.com
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.&&Life may not
WWW Bikerbraid  
IP Logged
 
leia
Diamond
*****
Offline



Posts: 745
Dhaka, Bangladesh
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 3:37am
 
Back to top
 

~*Lioness*~
WWW  
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #18 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 12:42pm
 
Oh, THOSE! I've never tried them, but I've certainly seen them enough times. I'll have to give those a try once it gets a little longer.

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
Kate
Emerald
****
Offline



Posts: 328
Linköping, Sweden
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #19 - Aug 14th, 2004 at 6:02pm
 
I used to wear them when I was younger but had quite short hair - it was especially convenient when working out. That or those stretchy fabric headbands that go all the way around your head.

/Kate
Back to top
 
 
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #20 - Sep 5th, 2004 at 1:18pm
 
So far I'm pretty lucky, my hair has already grown an inch and it's not looking too shaggy...I went and bought an Alice band and a few stretchy fabric headbands and they work really well for taming the few rebellious strands that want to stick out right now.  Happy

I'm so happy that my hair grows quickly!

*random*  The other day my roomie was combing her hair, it's about shoulder length and really curly and it was wet, and she was just sort of ripping the comb through it hurriedly...then she stopped and looked at her comb and said, "Wow, I have a lot of hair coming out..."  And I almost burst out laughing because I was thinking, "Well, of COURSE you do if you comb it like THAT!"

Anyway. It made me laugh. I comb my hair so carefully now.

My hair looks like it's gotten a little darker. Can perms do that to your hair?

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
eKatherine
Emerald
****
Offline



Posts: 426
Maine
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #21 - Sep 5th, 2004 at 2:15pm
 
You don't have a perm in your hair now, do you?

I know a woman who is naturally ash blond, but when her hair is permed it is pale blond. This looks unnatural on her as she is about 60. (Ok, the girlish hairstyle looked silly, too.) Her natural look now is very attractive. Now if only she would grow out her length...Wink

Perms can't change the color that your hair grows in, but if perming your hair regularly lightened it a bit, the roots will be darker than you're used to.

It's also probable that, as with most people, your hair is growing darker as you grow older.
Back to top
 

...
 
IP Logged
 
bikerbraid
Shooting Star
*******
Offline


Life is short, Break the
rules

Posts: 6569
Bike Paths of the Midwest
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #22 - Sep 5th, 2004 at 2:42pm
 
Most people's hair does darken as they age.  The lighter the color when younger, the more the hair will darken.  As a kid my hair was white blonde - almost translucent.  Now it is a dark blonde, almost brown.
Back to top
 

bikerbraid
Global Salon Moderator
LongLocks HairSticks Boutique
http://www.longlocks.com
Life is short, Break the rules, Forgive quickly, Kiss slowly, Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably, And never regret anything that made you smile.&&Life may not
WWW Bikerbraid  
IP Logged
 
ellasongbird
Sapphire
***
Offline



Posts: 135
Gender: female
Re: suggestions?
Reply #23 - Sep 5th, 2004 at 3:42pm
 
Nope...I don't have a perm now. I got it permed once, left it for about five months until it ruined my hair (which is apparently extremely fragile in that sense) and  chopped it off. What I have left looks darker than I remember, but I could be wrong.

It could just be the hair darkening of maturing...I really don't know. It seems to run in my family, my dad had dirty blonde hair as a kid that darkened to medium brown, and my mom had very light brown hair that is now very dark brown.

Up until recently I thought I had escaped the hair-darkening gene...when I was little it was extremely pale, almost white blonde and it darkened only slightly to a shiny golden blonde, which is stayed at all through high school.

But I swear, it's looking closer and closer to dirty blonde these days.

I can NOT imagine myself with dark hair...I couldn't even imagine myself with dirty blonde hair and now it looks very close to that. It's so weird. I'm still very pale so I think it looks a little funny.  -_-

Ah well. Just curious as to whether perms could do that.

Ella
Back to top
 

1bFi hair&&Dark blonde
 
IP Logged
 
Pages: 1 
Send Topic Print