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Which one ? Washing the hair, the scalp or both ?
Feb 18th, 2007 at 7:35am
 
Are you supposed to be washing your hair, your scalp or both ?  Smiley

Really dumb this I know, but having always taken it for granted I’ve never really understood the underlying objectives of washing one’s hair !!  Embarrassed Embarrassed

Obviously everyone’s different and products suitable for one person aren’t suitable for another, but are you basically supposed to be washing your hair, your scalp or both ? I sort of understand the acidity and ph side of things and the need to choose the right kind of shampoos etc., but and this is the really dumb part (!), it strikes me that if you have to use soap to wash the skin and not shampoo, why are we therefore using shampoo to “wash” the skin on the head ?

The reason I’m bringing all this up is years ago I occasionally had to use Nizoral to get rid of mild dandruff, which all used to work well. Then I tried something I’d read on a forum of diluting the shampoo and using lukewarm water instead, plus a final cold rinse. I never noticed but all I can remember is that I eventually stopped using Nizoral and the dandruff gradually disappeared.

Well about 3 or 4 months ago I wondered what would happen if I went back to using normal showering water temperature for shampooing. Almost immediately my hair started looking much healthier all round, though I still continued using diluted (Jojoba) shampoo. Lately unfortunately the dandruff has returned with a vengeance ! Very flaky scalp which is now - apologies I know this is very yukky (!) – drying in one or two small areas into a tiny hard crust which eventually flakes off as dandruff. Horrible and whilst I’m now back with the dreary chore of having to use Nizoral again, it has at least set me thinking about all the above and what the fundamental objectives are for washing one’s hair in the first place.

I’m now beginning to think that perhaps the skin on the scalp must out of necessity be that much more oily than the rest of one’s skin in order to maintain healthy hair. If only because a). you don't get dandruff on the skin and b). when you get chapped hands from constantly getting your hands wet or the skin becomes too dry in winter, the same though a much milder type of skin flakiness always seems to occur as well. So the need to daily rub in some sort of soothing oil into all of the affected skin areas.

On exactly the same principle as chapped hands etc., whilst I’ve still no idea whether using warmer water was the original culprit that removed my natural scalp oils, either way I’ve now gone back to using lukewarm water again. However it’ll be at least a good two or three months or so before I’ll know if it’s working or not, i.e. allowing the scalp oils to settle back into their natural balance etc.

All of which led to the above question ! Smiley

Ideally though obviously impossible, from this I would have thought in principle only you should always aim to shampoo the hair and not the scalp as the scalp is simply normal skin. So is there such a thing as a scalp shampoo or do manufacturers try to include both basic requirements of the hair and scalp into each product ? And does the ph factor in shampoos refer to the scalp or the hair ?

Hmm…it might be fun to try a one-off Jojoba shampoo massage next time my hands are dry !

It would be very interesting to hear everyone else’s dual skin cleansing and hair shampooing approaches as well and any thoughts they might have on all this ?

Thanks Smiley
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Re: Which one ? Washing the hair, the scalp or bot
Reply #1 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 10:59am
 
Umm, where to begin?  I have very dry skin and scalp all the time.  My skin needs oil-I have to apply it to my body after every shower followed by lotion 'cause the lotions don't keep the moisture in for me.  I have applied oil to my scalp before bed and washed it out the next morning and it helps.  The most helpful thing for me has been to use moisturizing shampoo only once every 10 days, and only on the scalp.  The other times I get my hair wet and either cleanse my scalp with moisturizing conditioner and apply conditioner to the hair as well or to just massage my scalp with water and then condition.

You may have psoriasis on your scalp, btw.

So, shampooing the length is unneccessary and drying to the ends-big trouble if your hair is really long 'cause those ends will be many years old and as fragile as antique lace.

I don't know if I got to all of your querries...I've got to go to work now!

HTH.
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Re: Which one ? Washing the hair, the scalp or bot
Reply #2 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 11:40am
 
Hi Sakina

Thanks for your reply. I guess there's initially quite a lot of trial and error in determining the correct products and answers to one’s own particular skin types. Definitely top of a woman’s list but perhaps a “little” lower for most guys ! Still I think I’m finally getting there ! Grin

Fortunately it isn't psoriasis as I've had this type of problem once or twice before and the Nizoral soon clears it up. I think for me personally it's possibly constantly washing with water that is too warm, so that over time it starts removing most of one's natural oils causing the scalp to overcompensate. Which then makes things just a trifle itchy ! Embarrassed
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Reply #3 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 12:56pm
 
To get babysmoothe hands:

nivea the blue metallic jar for dry skin+sugar.Mix the ingredients in your hands and rubb the whole hands gently.Sleep with thin cottongloves(get at the chemist).Voila!!!!!!!!

Rubbing your hands with banana also helps.

For flakyskin in face and hairline:

Vaseline!!!!!!!!It soothes psoriasis and other skin problems,like acne.

Dandruff and ichyness in scalp:

Massage a lot of 100% coconut oil with some lemonjuice gently with your fingers (this also prevents getting grey hair and helps the bloodcirculation hence hairgrowth..)Do this many times a week.

The vinegar rinse!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #4 - Feb 18th, 2007 at 1:27pm
 
Tacka Fata Morgana  Smiley

fata morgana wrote on Feb 18th, 2007 at 12:56pm:
(this also prevents getting grey hair and helps the bloodcirculation hence hairgrowth..)


Bit too late now sadly, they came with the job years ago ! Grin

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