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Jan 23rd, 2004 at 5:17am
 
Hello! I am new here and hoping for some advice:

I have fine hair and live in a very arid climate. When I lived at sea level in a humid climate, my hair actually had some wave to it, but here it is stick-straight and dry.

I can't figure out what to do about this. I do condition it, but only in tiny amounts, because when I get the least bit generous with the conditioner, my hair hangs together in a clumpy way even after I rinse it out.

I've tried Humectress shampoo, and some days that works, but other days it leaves it looking overconditioned.

So, I'm kind of at my wits end. It seems my choices are either to have hair that's slightly fluffy (but oh-so-dry) or hair that just hangs there limply.

Does anybody know of a good shampoo/conditioner that works for hair like this in conditions like these? Also: can you recommend any other treatments, such as a specific hot oil or deep conditioner?

BTW: I'm not blow-drying it, and I am rinsing it in cold water post-wash. (Well, most days. Some days that's just too rugged.) However, the lower half of my hair does get a lot of weather exposure - mostly cold, heat and/or sun.

Thanks much for any help you can give me!

Christine
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Reply #1 - Jan 23rd, 2004 at 10:20am
 
Hi and welcome! I hope I can be of some help to you Cheesy Have you tried using a leave in conditioner? A little bit rubbed between the palms and then just smoothed over the hair works very well when my hair feels dry(I use Beauty without cruelty leave-in conditioner then).
Also,I can say that I really didn´t like Nexxus Humectress Shampoo-I used it for some time and my hair was a dry ,frizzy mess Tongue (My hair is fine & straight).
Maybe you could try a gentle shampoo like Paula´s Choice All over hair&body shampoo followed by Matrix Biolage conditioning balm,silicone-free,but very moisturizing and I´ve never had any over-conditioning with it.
I hope I don´t sound like a commercial Grin,but I had been searching for years for the right products,and these two are simply great!
Another option would be oils,like coconut oil etc. as a leave in.They don´t work for me,but many people swear by them Smiley
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Reply #2 - Jan 25th, 2004 at 10:13pm
 
Hi Anne-Marie,

Thank you for the advice! And, don't worry about sounding like a commercial - that's exactly the kind of information I was seeking.

Have a great day!
Christine
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Reply #3 - Jan 26th, 2004 at 8:23am
 
Thanks-and I hope it´ll help a bit! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #4 - Jan 26th, 2004 at 2:03pm
 
Welcome!

Another suggestion I might make is to use a vinegar rinse between your shampoo and conditioner.  This will remove any product build up and restore the ph of your hair, not to mention restoring shine to your hair.

Also, a light application of jojoba oil to the length of you hair each day can help restore moisture. 

Good luck!
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Reply #5 - Jan 26th, 2004 at 9:06pm
 
 When I grew my hair to mid-thigh length, I lived in the Sonoran Desert.  I had to learn some hair-care strategies that were different from the humid southern (and sea-level) climate I was raised in. By the way, my hair has always behaved differently at sea-level than it has on the high plains. My skin, too - I never burned at sea-level, but I burn in less than five minutes at 3000+ feet. I wonder if that somehow could translate to the potential for greater hair damage, too.

The jojoba oil is wonderful to prevent split ends and minimize the dry, frizzy feel.  If I know I'll be washing my hair the next day, I'll jojoba all my hair really well, then put it on top of my head and forget it (I wrap it before going to bed, so it doesn't transfer to pillowcase.)  Shampoo the next day, and voila!  Between times, you can just use a tiny amount of jojoba oil on the very ends before you go to bed (it soaks right in and has never gotten on my bed linens).

Absolutely, bikerbraid, an occasional vinegar rinse helps keep away product build-up and give lovely shine.  My great-grandmother taught me to use cider vinegar since my hair is dark (Guess you'd use white vinegar for lighter?). She taught me to pour about a cup into a large container or pitcher, then dilute with water.   After shampooing, drench the solution into your hair, and gently work it around for a little while.  Rinse and condition.  It really helps bring out any natural highlights, too.

I have had very good luck with shampoos and conditioners from Avalon Natural Products (their Organic Botanicals line).  They are super gentle, contain no SLS or propolene glycol (which can be extremely irritating to skin and scalps), and have left my hair soft and smooth.  The conditioner can be used as a regular rinse, or you can dab extra on the ends after towel drying.  My friend glops it on her damp hair and braids it to let it really soak in, which I have tried with good effect.  It hasn't left me looking stringy or oily, and their products are not cost-prohibitive.

http://www.avalonnaturalproducts.com

It sounds like overexposure might be part of your problem. One of the best things you can do in a dry climate is to keep your hair braided, or put up.  Do not let it whip around in the wind or be overly exposed to the sun. Hats and scarves are your friends.  When I used to braid my hair in the mornings, I would slather on La Maur's placenta cream (which I can't find now) and just leave it on, but the jojoba treatments seem to have replaced it just fine. My hair never saw a blow-dryer unless I had been ill. My ends were trimmed regularly, even if I didn't think I needed it, and this turned out to be crucial to prevent damage from starting at the ends.  I only wore my hair down for big occasions, usually in the evening, and combed good old-fashioned glycerin and rosewater through it just before going out. Many people in Arizona, New Mexico and Sonora remember my lovely long braids...very few people ever saw my hair down in public.
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Reply #6 - Jan 27th, 2004 at 5:47am
 
Wow - this is great! Thank you all so much for the help!

Before I go shopping (or mixing), a couple more questions:

1.  Has anybody tried the recipe for the "Lily of the Desert" shampoo in the "Hair Care Recipe Cookbook" section of this website? Looks like it's for dry hair...

2.  Nexxus has a new line called "VitaTress" (www.nexus.com/vita/index.phtml) which allegedly helps fix thinning, breaking hair. The schtick is that they've added cysteine, protein and biotin.

Has anybody tried this? I could definitely use more hair. Or, are supplements the better way to go, given that your hair's already dead by the time it comes out of your scalp. (It is, right?)

(BTW: if the moderator needs to move this to the "Products" section, I won't be offended!  Smiley )

Thanks *much*. Keep growing!

Christine
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Reply #7 - Jan 27th, 2004 at 8:14am
 
Since I used to be  Grin quite a product junkie(still tempted sometimes) I have tried almost all of Nexxus products:The Vita Tress Biotin Shampoo is o.k. but nothing special,it left my hair slightly stiff & dry (supposed to give the impression of more volume,I guess). The Vita Tress Cysteine treatment (one of the conditioners )is quite another story-the worst conditioner ever Tongue Tongue (Well,for my hair) It left my hair feeling extremely dry and brittle and sort of bleached out.
I´m sorry I can´t remember the ingredients because I threw it away,but there were several very harsh ones which had no reason to be in something that is supposed to *help* hair!
About the only Nexxus product I liked was their Botanoil shampoo. But that is only my experience,Nexxus might work well for people with coarse,strong hair-for my fine hair it was quite damaging.(and expensive)
If your hair doesn´t mind silicones,I could recommend the L´oreal Kerastase  or Mega Moisture conditioners.I use them in winter sometimes and they work very well for dry,fine hair.
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Reply #8 - Jan 27th, 2004 at 9:30pm
 
Anne-Marie,

You are saving me tons of $$ in trial and error. Thanks!

Christine
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Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
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I use nexxus biotin shampoo regularly and yes it does dry the hair slightly but it depends what you want to get out of it - my hair was extremily thin and so more hair dry or otherwise is what I was after - again the conditioner is drying but I must admit with both of these treatments I have noticed a remarkable amount of new growth and thickness - it really has made a huge difference. so it is up to you - now my hair is growing I am not using these treatments as much and have started taking a biotin supplement instead. However it is too soon to tell if this is any good or not...  this might be an option for you (cheaper too!!!!!) Cheesy
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Reply #11 - Mar 30th, 2004 at 8:56pm
 
Greetings, Aphrodite!

Thank you for the new information. Your timing is great; lately, I've been wondering what the next step is with my hair.

For how long have you (or did you) use the VitaTress biotin shampoo? Also: were you using the Cysteine conditioner? If so, for how long?

Also: were you using any other of the products in that line?

If you could please outline how you were using the whole shootin' match of products, that would be great!

Thanks much,
Christine
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Reply #12 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 9:44am
 
Hi Christine

Yep I used the biotin shampoo, cystine treatment and also the biotin cream (which I must admit is really good) you just massage it in to your scalp.

I am still on my first bottle of all of them (they last ages) and I guess I have been using them for about 2-3 months. There is a definate improvement in my hair but like I said - watch out for the possible dryness. Also you have to leave both the shampoo and the cystine treatment on for 3 mins each so washing your hair becomes quite a time consuming business!! The things we do for beauty!!! I have also been eating more protein and I think that really helps too. Also massage your scalp regularly which boosts circulation. (I learnt all this on this web site!!!)

Hope it all helps!!
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Reply #13 - Mar 31st, 2004 at 5:08pm
 
That helps a lot. Thanks!

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