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Reply #15 - Jan 10th, 2005 at 11:17am
 
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Maybe I am being a little dingy but what is ACV?


ACV = apple cider vinegar.  Typically used as a rinse after shampooing and before conditioning.  Proportions of ACV to water vary by person, exact measurements are not necessary.
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Reply #16 - Jan 11th, 2005 at 1:40am
 
Thanks Bikerbraid. 

Eak!! Orange hair!!  I like auburn color on me but I don't want to look like I stuck my head in a bag of Cheetos!!  Guess I've been lucky with my limited henna experiments so far ( my hair is pretty dark brown)
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Reply #17 - Jan 11th, 2005 at 7:47am
 
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Eak!! Orange hair!!  I like auburn color on me but I don't want to look like I stuck my head in a bag of Cheetos!!  


Mmmm.....Cheetos.....**droooooollll**
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Reply #18 - Jan 11th, 2005 at 11:51am
 
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( my hair is pretty dark brown)


well at least someone with dark hair in here seems to have good results so ... just try to get "real" henna (app a lot of stuff that is sold under that name isn't) and try it on collected hair from your brush or a strand behind your ears that doesn't show too much.
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Reply #19 - Jan 12th, 2005 at 12:58am
 
Umm...I don't suppose there's any way to tell by the colour of the henna powder how dark it will turn out?  ??? A friend gave me directions to an international goods store that sells henna. They only had one kind of body henna, but the woman working there said it was just fine for hair, so I went ahead and bought 400g. I was so thrilled about finally being able to find some that it didn't even occur to me until I got home that I had no idea what colour it'll turn, and that a price of $1.09 for 100g probably doesn't mean really high quality stuff.  Undecided

Ah well, I'll definitely do a strand test beforehand, and if it doesn't look good - hey, it cost less than $5, so no big loss. I can always use it to doodle on myself with, if nothing else.  Tongue
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Reply #20 - Jan 12th, 2005 at 11:52pm
 
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try it on collected hair from your brush


What a good idea!  I never thought of that, I always just snipped a little from an inconspicuous spot and tried the hair color on that.
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Reply #21 - Jan 14th, 2005 at 3:36am
 
Okay, here's a procedure I came up with for myself after reading through some other peoples' techniques and suggestions. Since a couple of you have done this before, I thought I'd share it here to get some feedback before moving forward. I've never dyed before except for coffee rinses, and I'm a bit paranoid about these intense processes...

1) Mix henna powder with ˝ extra-strong coffee & ˝ lemon juice, to get a yoghurt consistency, plus 6 or 7 drops of rosemary EO for added scent (because that's the only flavour I have Roll Eyes).
2) Put mix in a plastic Ziploc bag and place it on top of a white paper towel. Let sit on top of refrigerator overnight. Apparently the paper towel is supposed to be an indicator of when the dye has released; it should turn a pale orange colour when the mix is ready.
3) In the morning, do a strand test. Keep mix in fridge during test. Rinse test hairs after approx. 6 hours. If everything looks good, proceed.
4) Put mix back on top of fridge after test so it’s not cold when you apply it to your head. Shower, with a clarifying shampoo only.
5) Comb hair while still damp, then apply the mix thoroughly: Cut off a corner of the plastic bag & squeeze out the mixture (like icing) onto sections of hair. Wear plastic gloves and make sure to apply Vaseline to forehead, ears & neck to avoid staining your skin. Wrap hair in saran wrap/shower cap & towel.
6) Let mix sit on head for approx. 4 hours, then rinse thoroughly with cool water. Rub in a mild conditioner to help get all the mix out, then finish with an ACV soak. Condition the length again if needed.

I figure it'd be a good idea to do a strand test for longer than I actually plan on having the henna in my hair, so I know I won't end up too red. Based on what I've read from other people, it sounds like a couple hours can really make a difference in how intense the colour turns out.
Also, one more question...how long can one keep a henna mix for? If I end up mixing more than I actually need to apply, am I able to freeze/refrigerate the leftover for later use?
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Reply #22 - Jan 16th, 2005 at 1:53pm
 
Well, I just mixed up my henna powder, and to be honest, it looks like elephant poop and doesn't smell much better. Tongue It looks like it's supposed to though, as far as I can tell. I'm letting it sit for a few hours while I go to church to let the dye release. If it's ready by the time I get home, I'll do a strand test; if not, it'll have to sit another five hours while I go to work. I'll keep you posted on how it goes.  Smiley
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Reply #23 - Jan 16th, 2005 at 9:36pm
 
does henna stink a lot and if yes does it stay for long because it's my bf's only preoccupation!
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Reply #24 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 4:25am
 
I've read various accounts of a post-rinse with lavendar or another essential oil effectively getting rid of the smell. I'd venture to guess a good scented shampoo or conditoner might do the trick too.

I've also read that adding cloves, cinnamon, tea tree or other essential oils to the henna mix will also help with the smell. If there were a smell, I don't think it'd stick for too long.
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Reply #25 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 11:00am
 
but what does the henna smell like on it's own ?? cuze personally i think coffe smells pretty awful already, and so do many EO's, and certainly clove ... god i hate clove! so adding all that to something that already smells must be yukky!

i am trying to prepare myself to stop chem dye (too many scary things about it when used prolonged!). i will dye it ones more but only leave it half time so i create a good transition before i quit and change to henna. i just hope i can get the same dark color though since i am not even sure if i was rather medium brown or light brown (i hope i was the first lol).
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Reply #26 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 7:20pm
 
On its own, the henna I bought smells like a zoo. I don't know if that makes sense, but if you know what I mean....Rosemary EO and coffee didn't make any difference, but the clove gave it more of an earthy, holiday scent which is how my hair smells now, and I like it. But if you don't like that smell, I guess you'll just have to keep experimenting with different things until you find something you like. I rinsed my hair out with a vanilla-scented shampoo and citrus conditioner, & those didn't make a noticeable difference either.

As far as shedding...I lost a good bit of hair, but I think it's more from the stress of rubbing the gunk into your hair and then trying to rinse it out than the product itself.

As far as color...WOW. It's the same as my strand test, but on my whole head it looks a LOT redder, especially in the sunlight. It looks kind of unnatural, especially with my eyebrows which are still very brown. Still, it should tone down over the next few days, so I'm not too worried. Overall it's about what I expected, and I'm quite pleased with the results.  Smiley

As far as the process itself...if you're going to do it in the bathtub, do it sitting down, especially when rinsing out. It's probably not a problem if you have shorter hair, but I've got waist-length hair and my shower ended up coated in henna. I got some on the bathroom floor and the toilet as well - even in the toilet, somehow! You don't realize how much you splash water around in the shower until there's color to make it visible. Luckily it washes right off if you get it right away, but don't let it sit too long or it WILL stain.
I think ideally the best way to do this would be outside with a garden hose and a friend to help; however, in the dead of winter that doesn't really work.  Roll Eyes

I'm going to shampoo and condition again tonight before going to bed; I didn't spend very long rinsing out before because my younger sister was in need of a ride to the library, and I think I could afford to wash it a little better. Hopefully that'll tune the color down a bit too before school tomorrow. My friends are going to freak out. Luckily it's only a three-day week, so I won't have to endure weird looks too long.
Next time I also think I'm going to try ordering some of the Lush henna that leia uses, since it comes in different shades; hopefully I'll be able to find something that comes out more brown and less red.

My hair's just about dry right now, and it feel sooo soft and thick. I love it!

Anyhoo, best of luck to styg and anyone else wanting to henna. I'm sure you'll find something that works for you.  Smiley
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Reply #27 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 8:12pm
 
and ... how long and how strongly did the smell in the hair linger?
strange, some people say (expensive good quality) henna smells very herbal, but non the less some people think it smells bad.
ah well ... i suppose a final rinse with a floral water should kill it a bit.
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Reply #28 - Jan 17th, 2005 at 9:27pm
 
So many questions!  Wink Well, it's been about five hours, and the smell is starting to fade a bit. I'd guess it'll be pretty much gone by morning, though I doubt it'll vanish altogether, at least not for a couple washes or so. I think the smell is also supposed to come back a bit stronger when wet.

Oddly, the towel I used to wrap my hair in smells more like coffee now than of henna, while I can't notice the coffee in my hair at all.  ???
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