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Chagrin Valley shampoo bars & soaps
Apr 5th, 2005 at 6:01am
 
I received my all-natural, handmade soaps from Ida http://chagrinvalleysoapandcraft.com/index.html

Chamomille and Calendula soap
Sweet Basil soap
Honey, Beer & Egg shampoo bar
Rosemary Lavender Aloe shampoo bar
Rosemary Lemon & Aloe sample sized soap (for free)
Three butter lotion bar (for free)

I was served well and the shipping overseas was very speedy and cheap

So, I opened the herbal smelling envelope (Rosemary, Lavender & Aloe seems to be the source of strongest scent) and liked immediately the ecological & elegant packaging. Three butter lotion bar had suffered a little during long journey, but it's still usable, and the soaps arrived in top condition. I'm not good in conversions, so it was a pleasant surprise to receive generously sized soaps. Her prices are very good! Cheesy

Then it was time for first testing.
I've had the flu for past few days and haven't washed my hair during that time- I was well past my usual washing time. I don't remember when my hair has last been this long unwashed. Challenging situation to start the test, but I was too eager to try my new stuff.
     I tried first Honey, Beer & Egg shampoo. Because my hair was so dirty, I decided to vinegar rinse it after shampooing. Otherwise, I wanted to get a good result and decided to skip my usual conditioning and leave-in. Using solid shampoo felt weird, but not difficult. It didn't lather massively, just enough to be comfortable to use. I also liked the mild, nice smell- nothing like beer, just mild and "clean".  I lathered the soap and rubbed it to my scalp just like I proceed with my normal shampoo. It felt very strange first- my hair felt almost instantly stripped- "squeaking clean". But when I applied the vinegar rinse, that feeling disappeared and my hair started to feel just like other people in LHC have described- somehow more substantial and thicker. I quite liked the feeling! I'm in middle of shedding season and shed worse than my rabbit- no difference there. My hair isn't still completely dry, but where it is driest, it feels incredibly soft and lovely. It does not feel like missing conditioner at all!

Summa summarum:  I really like this shampoo. Cheesy Using it is much simpler than my regular CWC routine, and with vinegar rinse, my hair seems to respond well. Even though I'd experience some adjusting difficulties, I'm going to stick with this stuff. If a simple natural shampoo and vinegar rinse make my hair feel so good, why make matters more complicated?

I also tried Sweet Basil soap in lieu of my regular shower gel. My skin is very delicate and dry, and during winter it has been a real problem. It becomes so thin and dry that I get small wounds in it very easily, and after a shower it has itched horribly until next day, though I've tried to use gentlest and most moisturizing products available and never forgot to use a body butter (the only stuff that has seemed to help at all).
Sweet basil soap has herbal scent that is clear, but not disturbing. It also made my skin squeak, which made me a bit wary.
Then, wonder of wonders!  Cheesy This is the first time for as long as I can remember, when I haven't returned from shower with itching and tight-feeling skin. It didn't start itching and feeling awful as soon as it dried a bit. It feels just clean and soft and wonderful and so normal. I can almost hear it singing praise to Ida.  I am going to throw away all my drying shower gels. I'm convert.

All in all, I'm very pleased and will definitely order again.  Cheesy
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Reply #1 - Apr 5th, 2005 at 8:38pm
 
i've heard about them in the loom. could you give the ingredients (especially of the shampoo). is it castille soap-based?
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Reply #2 - Apr 5th, 2005 at 8:53pm
 
ok, their basis is saponified coconut ... sounds nice!! and so cheap!! what did you pay for posting? wow, this has to be tried out!  Shocked
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Reply #3 - Apr 6th, 2005 at 3:05am
 
The ingredients lists are on the website. Saponified oils and essential oils mainly. Proportions alter between different soaps.

The shipping to Finland was just $5  Shocked Grin. It's flat rate for shipping in envelope that was just big enough for my order. If one orders more, they just use a larger envelope that cost $8, if I remember correctly. Not bad!
I don't know how they pack and ship orders that cannot be fitter in those two alternatives, but I guess it is a bit more expensive. But, Ida doesn't do business with shipping; her rates include only the actual cost.
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2005 at 11:18am
 
i placed an order too, but the beer one was totally sold out slif snif, so i ordered the one for oily hair (chamomile & citrus) and the herbal one (does the rosemary one leave a powerful smell in the hair too? cuze that one freaked me a bit out so i didn't order it). i also hope to get the new carrot one too since apparently they can be bought before the "ready date" which is actually the date you can start using the bar (ida explained me those bars get milder by aging and the lather gets richer so one must wait to use them for about six weeks after preparation.
i read reviews in the loom and many people found it indeed weird at first and most of all they felt overconditioned despite  vinegar rinsing. i suppose they should use less lol.
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2005 at 11:32am
 
I have the impression that Honey Beer& Egg works well for many ppl. Like me. Smiley Seems like Loom & LHC managed to empty Ida's shampoo shelves quite effectively  Grin.
   Hmmm...I wouldn't say that my hair felt/feels overconditioned. It does feel somehow more "substantial", but not the way I associate with overconditioning. This is a nice feeling.
   
I tried Rosemary Aloe & Lemon soap last night. Lemon makes it smell really nice, but I didn't like it quite as much as Sweet Basil. It seemed to dry my skin a bit -not much compared to liquid shower gels, just compared to Sweet Basil soap.
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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2005 at 11:39pm
 
next time i'll order, i'll go for the sweet basil too cuze i like the smell a lot!
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Reply #7 - Apr 8th, 2005 at 7:27pm
 
I tried my Chagrin Valley soaps last night.  Smiley   I used the Dead Sea Spa soap and the Rosemary Lavender Aloe shampoo bar.  (I still can't smell a darn thing because of these allergies  Angry so I can't tell you how the scents are.  Sorry)

The soap worked very nicely.  Not as much lather as I'd have expected, but it rinsed off cleanly and didn't leave a "scummy" feeling on my skin (which is why I stopped using soap in the first place).  My skin was very soft this morning and it's still soft now, so this one's a winner.

I have thick, oily slippery hair, with old perm on the bottom and straight at the roots.  I used the shampoo bar only with no pre- or post conditioners.  Following Galadriel's lead, I put a splash of ACV in my herbal rinse.  I wet my hair and lathered up the shampoo bar.  I rubbed the suds on my scalp and worked them in, catching an occasional handful of water to help them along.  When I rinsed my hair suddenly became big and sticky  Shocked  like a cheap wig covered in hair spray.  I rinsed very well, even rinsing under the faucet to make sure I got every little drop of soap out.  Still all poofy and sticky and tangly feeling.  I had to use all my willpower not to slather on the conditioner.  I had a hard time dipping my  hair in the cup I usually put my rinse in; I could only get about half the lenth in first try.  As soon as it was exposed to the ACV, my hair calmed down and after the rinse it wasn't poofy anymore and only a bit sticky.  I put my leave on condtioner before bed  and put my rubber duck sock on my braid as usual.

This morning:  the top of my hair had dried and was very, very soft with no stickiness left.  The length was a bit damp (and my hair seemed to dry more quickly than when I use shampoo.  Odd.)  and just the slightest bit sticky.  I unbraided my hair first thing so it was nearly dry when I styled it.   Dry, my hair almost feels like there's a coating on it, but it's not unpleasant or sticky.  My hair feels much fuller, so much so I even measured my circumference again, but it hasn't changed.  The ends are very soft as well, and my updo held all day so it didn't make it more slippery than usual.  It does get a little sticky when it's wet; I noticed that when I tried to slick down some stray hairs.

I will use it again, since it does make my hair soft and the ACV rinse is no big deal since I use my herbal rinse after each washing anyway.  I hate that poofy, big sticky hair right after rinsing, though.  Next wash day, Sunday, I'll use a bit of clarifying conditioner afterward and see if it helps stop that.
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Reply #8 - Apr 8th, 2005 at 10:41pm
 
How is the Three Butter Lotion bar?  My DH gets cracked, dry skin from eczema especially in the winter.  Getting a good lotion to keep his hands from cracking has been almost impossible. The PR for the lotion bar looked promising.
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Reply #9 - Apr 10th, 2005 at 6:06am
 
I suppose it's worth a try. In my case, change from regular shower gels to all natural soap made a big change. My skin loves Ida's soaps!  Kiss

Speaking of soaps, I tried yesterday chamomille & calendula soap. Not a bad word of that either. It has mild, pleasant scent and works well with my skin.

I was in sauna, so I had to wash my hair. I used again Honey Beer & Egg. Squeakiness during wash was almost gone, and I decided that next time I'll go without ACV rinse.  Grin
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Reply #10 - Apr 11th, 2005 at 3:29pm
 
@ 13bodies i suppose one has to know certain things about using soaps since with the arrival of cheap detergents, they somehow became diabolized (at least around here, everything is called soapfree as if it's a hell of a lot better that way and nicely replaced by sulfates). soaps as mild as they can be tend to bind to certain other chemicals (residues of shampoos etc.) and to minerals (hard water!). so if the latter is the case, i suppose you always better rinse afterwards with good old acv. or, you prewet the hair before soaping with distilled water (or at least filtered).

i am really hoping to get mine soon (galadriel how many days did it take to arrive?)
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Reply #11 - Apr 12th, 2005 at 3:48am
 
It took precisely a week for me. Smiley
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Reply #12 - Apr 12th, 2005 at 7:48pm
 
aaaaaah, counting down!! wow, i finally checked out their body soaps ... it will take me years to test all of them ... i just can't choose! but i have a certain interest in the one with the pink clay and rose.  8)
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Reply #13 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 4:43pm
 
hmm ... i am less possitive about my first results. i bought 2 shampoo bars of the chamomile & citrus. i was rather surprised it strips really a lot of oil especially after comments from people who felt overconditioned with those soaps (which gave me the feeling it would be very mild). my hair was incredibly greasy before washing so i more or less did three rounds of soaping but still missed some spots. this works a bit like baking soda: if you don't massage it everywhere you'll be left with greasy parts, so in that it really differs from shampoo. but either my scalp isn't used to being this stripped anymore cuze i've had slight itching over the next days, even when my hair regreased, so i wonder if i didn't rinse enough or didn't use enough acv to get rid of soap residu! i don't have itching with baking soda which is supposed to degrease really well but of course leaves also no residul. i tried to wash my body with it and i have itchy arms and legs. it seems to be ok on my face though, my face can stand a lot lol. tonight i'll try the herb garden one but i don't have the feeling it conditions better than the other one. i guess if it leaves me with an itchy feeling on the body, it will do that with my scalp as well. i hope some of the soaps for the body are a bit milder, and use those on my hair as well. i really hope so cuze i do appreciate the extra body it gives, but it seems to do something weird with the shine though, couldn't explain. it's shiny but strangely different.  ???
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Reply #14 - Apr 18th, 2005 at 7:49pm
 
I used the Herb Garden shampoo bar last night and it worked really well.  I used a lavender/ACV rinse (recipe is in my journal) and my hair is ultra soft today and smells like lavender  Smiley  My hair is fuller with more body when I don't use the ACV rinse, though it is a bit tangly and sticky when wet; I have to comb it more carefully than usual, but I like the extra body.  I cut the bar lengthwise into thirds before using.  It was easier to handle that way.

The Shea Rose Clay soap is a bit drying to my skin.  I won't use it to shave with (makes my legs dry) but it'll be nice come summer when my skin is oiler.

My Honey Beer & Egg, and Nettle bars are on their way!
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