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Nov 20th, 2007 at 2:59pm
 
Hello all, I'm new here and I've been reading some of the threads and I'm liking what I see so far!  So the story on me is, up until I was 16 and first dyed my hair (never should have done that!)  I had black, fine, pretty much straight hair that wasn't very thick but it definitely was not thin, it was just normal.  Now I'm almost 22 and have dyed my hair many times, bleached it 3 times and stripped it (because I had dyed it black) once.  16 is also when I started either straightening my hair w/an iron every day or scrunching it with TONS of hairspray, gel AND mousse.  Needless to say, all that had a really bad effect on my hair.  I started noticing that it was thin, breaking off, falling out and splitting.  It got pretty bad, my buns and ponytails are still pretty pathetic and embarassing.  It's been about 2 months that I stopped straightening, blowdrying and scrunching my hair w/lots of product.  During these past 2 months, I've straightened only twice for special occassions.  I am also taking a biotin supplement daily, eating healthier and exercising.  I also stopped washing it every day w/shampoo, although I do wet it almost every day because it can get really flat and oily.  I use either Folicure shampoo or Loreal Nutri-gloss shampoo for normal/fine hair about every other day, I know that's too much but my hair feels so gross if I don't wash it.  I condition it about twice a week with charles worthington moisture lock.  I also use Aussie Hair Insurance leave-in conditioner every time I wet it.  To style, I just let it air dry, then put it in a ponytail or else I scrunch it a little with sun-silk anti-flat leave-in conditioner/gel and it gets pretty wavy.  I haven't dyed my hair in 6 months so only the ends are dyed, because I want my natural, normal, black hair back! To think when I was 16 I thought it was horrible and now I'd do anything to get it back! It is bra strap length, and After looking at the hair typing page, my hair is currently 1B-F-i, so it's straight/slightly wavy, very fine and pretty thin,  it's about 2.2 inches around Sad When I pull my hair back, my scalp shows sometimes.  Is there anything else I should be doing?  I know I should switch to natural, organic products for my hair but I am a college student on a budget.  Is there anything I can make at home to condition it?  Also, I am going to start trimming my own hair from now on.  Every hairdresser tells me to keep my layers because it is the only way for thin hair to look thicker but I disagree, I think it makes my hair look even thinner and scraggly.  What else should I be doing? I am seeing some results because my hair feels and looks a lot healthier...ok sorry so long, but I could really use your tips and input! Grin
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Reply #1 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 4:00pm
 
Welcome!

It sounds like you are learning how to grow healthier hair!  Staying away from stylists that insist on layering is a good idea.  (I cannot fathom how layers will make thin hair look thicker  Huh)  I usually suggest that simple and less is best when it comes to growing long hair.  The more products you put on your hair, the more often you will need to shampoo, which will strip the natural oils and moisture from your hair.  The products may also be building up on your hair which will make it feel like it needs to be shampoo'd more often and prevent moisture from getting to the hair.  Product buildup on the scalp can also be a cause of thinning hair.  Try to do regular vinegar rinses to keep the build up to a minimum and use a clarifying shampoo on occasion.  You might want to check to see if your products have silicone based ingredients and avoid those if possible. 

Natural products are nice, but there are many products you can find that don't cost an arm and leg that will work well on your hair.  You may need to experiment a bit to find them, so try to find samples, travel sizes or small bottles initially to try out new products. 

Since your hair has been mistreated for a while, you might want to look into finding an oil that works well on your hair.  I have very fine hair and found that jojoba oil works best for me.  Oiling the chemically treated and/or heat abused hair will help keep it flexible and less prone to breaking and splitting.

I hope this helps a bit.  Cheesy

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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 4:48pm
 
Hey MTBBIO,  Smiley

It does sound like you've already stopped doing a lot of the things that were damaging your hair. It also sounds like you have the kind of hair naturally that I wish I had! Lucky girl!!  Cheesy

Anyway, I would suggest following BB's advice above and stop seeing the crazy stylist who keeps telling you to get layers! If your hair is already thin and fine (mine is), layers are going to make that even worse. Your best bet is to go with a one-length blunt cut.

And it's not a "rule of the hair gods" that you MUST switch to all natural products. Puh-leeez! Just use what works for your hair. Most women here use grocery/chain store brands and find that they work perfectly well.
    If you're into natural recipes, this part of the site might be useful to you.

Also, if I were to add any suggestions to the above, they would be 1.) get regular trims and 2.) use a deep conditioning treatment at least once a week.

Best of luck and happy growing.  Smiley
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Reply #3 - Nov 20th, 2007 at 5:41pm
 
Thanks for your tips so far! Ideally, I want my hair to be bra strap length, I don't really care for/need anything longer! But I do want somewhat long hair that isn't straggly and shoulder length like it is now.  And I want natural products because I'm just interested in those kinds of things as a whole because I don't like chemicals,  Cry Crybut at the time my budget won't allow it so I'll have to make do with regular brands for now!  I also have a question- I never know what kind of routine to do with shampoo only/conditioner only/water only/acv rinses/deep conditioning/leave-in conditioner.  My aunt, who is a hairdresser in Mexico, and the only person who has cut and styled my hair to where it actually looks pretty and bouncy always tells me to STOP USING CONDITIONER!  Her and her daughters have very pretty, thick, shiny hair and they never use conditioner, they say it makes their hair fall out.  I stopped using it for a while and it really didn't make a difference either way so I'm not sure what to do with my hair.  Right now, I shampoo about every other day, rinse it every day, condition or deep condition 2-3 times a week, and use leave-in conditioner every day.  Besides that, I really don't put anything else in my hair.  I want to incorporate acv rinses and hair oils but not sure when to add them to my routine.  I shampoo that often because my hair gets flat and oily and to me it feels thicker and healthier when it's freshly washed.  Any suggestions? Thanks!  O, and I did stop going to that hairdresser who insists that layers make thin hair look thicker! If only my aunt lived closer to me!   Cry
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Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2007 at 8:24am
 
I don't recommend using conditioner on the hair that is on your head.  I only use conditioner on the hair below the nape of my neck.  This keeps the conditioner off the scalp.  Conditioner on the scalp can cause the folicles to get clogged which can cause your hair to fall out.

Most people use the ACV rinse after shampooing and before conditioning, but others use the ACV rinse as the last step.

Oiling can be done while the hair is wet right after shampooing, or when the hair is dry.  When first starting with the oils, I suggest doing it the night before you plan to shampoo.  This allows the oil to be absorbed overnight and if you overdo the oil, shampooing the next day will take care of the excess.  Wink  Once you know how much oil to use so that you don't look like a grease-head in the morning, you can oil your hair every night.  During the dry winter months, I also add a tiny bit of oil to the ends of my hair in the morning.  This helps control the static and compensate for the very dry air.

Your shampooing frequency if probably tied to your regular use of a leave-in conditioner and deep conditioning.  If you eliminated or reduced the frequency of these, you might find you can extend the time between shampoos.  Again- remember to NOT condition the hair on your head - just the ends or length. 

Hope this helps!
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