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Jun 7th, 2006 at 4:53pm
 
A hair journal. I'm terrible with keeping up with journals, but maybe this will help me - keep me from cutting it all of when the going (growing?) gets tough.

I decided maybe two months ago I was going to once again try to grow my hair out. It's in a bob right now, dyed a flaming red (which I love) and, unfortunately is suffering from the ill effects of blow frying and dyeing.

My first goal is BSL, which I guesstimated I would reach May 22, 2008. Talk about being specific! My second and ultimate goal is waist-length, which I was figuring would happen on or around May 2009 (I may revise this date).

I am going Saturday to a new salon recommended by a friend of mine for a conditioning treatment and an evaluation. From talking to the stylist and my friend, the stylist is very hair-goal friendly, and will work with you to achieve your goals.
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Reply #1 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 5:00pm
 
Hey EisPrinzessin,

Congrats on starting your hair journal.  Smiley

I hope your visit with the new stylist goes well, and that she can work some hair magic. Your colour sounds pretty, btw. I wonder if you could find the same colour in henna?

BSL is one of my short-term goals, also and waist length is one of my ultimate goals, so I'll look forward to reading about your experiences.

Good luck & happy growing.  Smiley
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Reply #2 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 8:44pm
 
Ditto what Angel Spun said. Smiley

I hope the woman turns out to be a great stylist! I've heard some horror stories about domineering stylists, so it's great that she'll help with your hair goals.
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Reply #3 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 10:14pm
 
Congratulations on your new journal!  Sounds like we have the same goals.
Good luck at the new hairdresser and have patience!!  We here at LL help each other through those horrible urges to cut, and we'll help you, too.   Grin
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Reply #4 - Jun 7th, 2006 at 11:31pm
 
   I think fiery long manes are to die for!  I have seen several women on the internet with brightly dyed RED hair to their knees , and it looks awesome.  Have you seen the movie X-Men 3 (The Last Stand)?  One of the central characters has long dyed RED hair to her butt, and it looks soooh beautiful.  Forget the fact that her hair is probably all extensions!  I'm all for your plans to grow your red mane long.

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Reply #5 - Jun 8th, 2006 at 12:13pm
 
Thank you everyone for the encouragement! I think I've found the right place to continue my journey...

Today is a scary day. I came to work without washing my hair. I'm an everyday washer, and I wanted to try to go every other day. In the past, it's been a complete disaster, because by 2 p.m. my scalp is really oily. I'm using an aloe-based shampoo right now, from Eufora, and when I woke up this morning, my hair didn't look oily at all. So I decided to give it a try. Hey, it can't hurt to spare my hair for one day from the "abuse" of washing and blow flying, right?

Another thing I figured out this morning is I can pull my hair into a tiny, tiny ponytail. It looks strange, but it all pulls back - a milestone, although a tiny one.  Grin
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Reply #6 - Jun 8th, 2006 at 1:26pm
 
Welcome! 
I remember it wasn't so long ago that I could just barely make a ponytail.  Now I'm making buns!  Ah, it's a grand feeling, though, pulling your hair into those first ponytails.  Congrats!   Smiley
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Reply #7 - Jun 8th, 2006 at 1:31pm
 
Welcome and happy growing! Grin
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Reply #8 - Jun 9th, 2006 at 12:28pm
 
OK, yuck. I think I've cured myself of going without a washing for the time being. Yesterday's hair was a DISASTER (as it usually is when I don't wash). I think I'm going to have to wait until it's longer (past my shoulders) before I try that again. This morning was CWC - Suave Milk and Honey, Eufora Hydrating Shampoo and Eufora Urgent Repair Conditioner. I also blow fried with the usual results. I am going to make a committment to STOP using the blow fryer, starting tomorrow. I'll have to get up earlier to allow for air drying/styling (read: light BB brushing), but hopefully, it'll be worth it. Tomorrow's the big day, anyway - the hair consult....

I remeasured and my guesstimate dates are right.
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Reply #9 - Jun 9th, 2006 at 4:11pm
 
Don't feel bad, Eis... washing every day is the only routine that works for me, too.  Wink
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Reply #10 - Jun 9th, 2006 at 5:22pm
 
When your scalp is used to daily washing, it will produce more oils to compensate for the losses during the shampooing.  It takes time for the scalp to re-acclimate to less frequent shampooings, and the resulting less production of oil.

One  to try might be to just rinse the hair, but not shampoo it.  This will help eliminate some of the dirt and oils.  Another trick is to dilute your shampoo so that it is less harsh on the scalp.

Of course, it does take time.  You might start with weekends of not washing, to help your scalp adjust.

I used to be a daily washer, now I can go 7 days.  Even on biking days when I get home all hot and sweaty, a quick rinse in the shower is usually all I need to freshen my hair.

Good luck!
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Reply #11 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 9:13pm
 
Wow, well one thing I (and many of you) had right... I was FRYING my hair. The hair stylist thoroughly examined my locks and said, "Your hair is singed. Actually singed." She "shaped" the cut - I let her, it looked like you-know-what anyway - and advised me that if I must blow dry to try a ceramic ion dryer (I was using a cheapo $12.95 fryer), which supposedly uses steam heat instead of hot heat.

My hair looks A LOT better. I wasn't going to let her cut it - only do a conditioning treatment, but I changed my mind and am pleased with the results. The trim itself set me back maybe four months. I'll remeasure and redo my timeline thingy to be sure.
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Reply #12 - Jun 10th, 2006 at 11:01pm
 
Thanks for letting us know how the visit went. It sounds like you're going to have a good stylist. Smiley
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Reply #13 - Jun 11th, 2006 at 1:18am
 
I think you'll be happier in the long run-now you can do regular deep treatments yourself and your hair will look better as it is growing out!
Congratulations!!
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Reply #14 - Jun 14th, 2006 at 3:57pm
 
I was a bad girl today. Instead of following the regimen the stylist gave me, I did a CWC.

It turned out eh - so-so. There's still damage in my hair, so I can't expect terrific results. I used Suave Milk & Honey for first condition, and my hair felt silky and great. I then used Goth Rosary shampoo and conditioner. Still OK. Then I sprayed it with the fortifier the stylist gave me, and that's when I noticed it feeling more straw-like.

I'm not sure what the problem is - I haven't had a problem with the spray prior to this (OK, I haven't been using it that long). Sigh. Sometimes I feel like I'll never get my hair to look shiny and pretty.  Cry
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Reply #15 - Jun 18th, 2006 at 1:59pm
 
Check the ingredients of everything you're using on your hair, EisPrinzessin, there may be a type of product (like an oil or -cone) that isn't working for you...

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Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2006 at 3:39pm
 
Ho-hum today. I didn't do anything special with my hair, although I've stopped using the Eufora products. My scalp was getting very itchy and sore. I've been using Goth Rosary shampoo and conditioner, and used Nexxus Aloe Rid (to get rid of any residuals left behind by the Eufora) and KeraPhix on Sunday. Much better. I think tomorrow morning, I'm going to start off with some Suave Milk & Honey, too and then my Goth Rosary stuff.

Of note, and nothing to do with my hair: I am in a desperate (I'm always desperate  Tongue) fight to get sunless tanning lotion off my skin. I thought I would try again this year, with the same results - orange arms and legs and feet that look dirty. I loofahed with a cocoa-scented scrub, but I still look dirty and freckled with sunless tanning lotion. I threw all the bottles of the stuff away, too. I've decided I am a pale girl and I'm going to STAY that way (I have really, really pale skin). Besides, red hair looks better with pale skin anyway.
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Reply #17 - Jun 21st, 2006 at 2:54pm
 
Hey Eis-P.,

Nice to meet you and to see that you've started a journal to track your growth.  I am currently at BSL...and stuck there for life, I fear.  My ultimate goal, like you, is to reach waist length.  I'm doing my best, but just think that I've reached my hair's limit, I'll keep trying though!

Is your hair naturally red, or just colored red?  I went through a red spell myself a few years back....after I got finished with my black spell.  Roll Eyes  Now, I am content to leave it my natural brunette.

Good luck on your hair journey, I look forward to seeing your progress!  Grin

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Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2006 at 3:35pm
 
Hi, Maggie, nice to meet you too. I was born with reddish-brown hair and I've kept it somewhere between light red and reddish brown for about 7 years now, by coloring it. I'm starting to get greys (at 32  Embarrassed) so I have to dye at least the roots.
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Reply #19 - Jun 21st, 2006 at 3:38pm
 
I am considering cancelling my next cut. My hair is getting to be in pretty good shape now. I use the ion dryer on a cool setting, and my hair seems to be slowly improving.

I CWC'd today with V05 Balsalm and Protein (my hair and scalp looooooooove this product), Goth Rosary shampoo and conditioner, and then used Auntie Rhubarb's Moisture Bomb in Woodland Spice as a leave-in. My hair is soft and bouncy and pretty today. And my scalp feels better than it did a few days ago - no more itchy burning.

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Reply #20 - Jun 21st, 2006 at 11:46pm
 
Hey Eis,

I have just a few quick questions. You've been using the Goth Rosary washes for awhile and seem familiar with them. How is the lather on them, and how long do the fragrances last?

I've been thinking about buying some and wanted your opinion first.
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Reply #21 - Jun 22nd, 2006 at 3:42pm
 
I'm sorry - I tried to post this last night, but for some reason, I couldn't get it to work.

As far as lather, the Goth Rosary shampoo lathers similar to a regular shampoo (although it doesn't have the harsh ingredients of regular shampoos). I do dilute it a little bit, just to make it easier to work into my hair. The ingredients are listed on the website.

The conditioner is awesome - gives my hair a lot of slip, makes it shiny and pretty. The scent stays in all day - I've woken the next morning and the scent is still there. It's not overpowering, but it's present. I've only tried Mayhem, but I've just ordered Crypt.  You can order a sample pack of the fragrances before committing to buying the shampoo and conditioner (I didn't though - I'm a "jump in with both feet" kind of girl!).
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Reply #22 - Jun 22nd, 2006 at 10:50pm
 
Oh cool, thanx for the info!  Smiley

The site claims that the washes are low-lathering and I hate that, but I had a feeling somehow that they'd probably lather up just like any ordinary shampoo anyway.  Roll Eyes

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lol Same here. I might order the sample pack just to get an idea of how everything really smells, though. I think Goth Rosary washes are definitely in my future.  Wink
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Reply #23 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 1:48pm
 
AngelSpun, I conciously monitored the lathering yesterday morning. I would say that the shampoos lather more than most low-lathering shampoos (like L'Occitane), but less than most shampoos. Sorry for a bit of mis-info earlier. I find if I dilute a little bit, I get more lather and it's easier to work with.
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Reply #24 - Jun 25th, 2006 at 3:10pm
 
I must be a glutton for punishment. I'm trying CO again. Actually, I figured out that I was doing it wrong. The last time I tried it (I think before I joined here), I wet my hair, put some V05 Balsalm and Protein on, rinsed it out and went on with my day. Big mistake - by two o'clock I had the greasies - big time.

Today, I did this - wet my hair, used Suave Milk & Honey as a cleansing conditioner - working it into my hair and scalp like a shampoo. Then I rinsed and used Nexxus KeraPhix as the second conditioner, leaving it in while I did the rest of my shower and then rinsing. We'll see how this one goes.
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Reply #25 - Jun 26th, 2006 at 3:08pm
 
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

OMG! It worked! My hair looked good all day, not greasy at all. This morning I CO'd again - Suave Milk & Honey 1st, Goth Rosary 2nd and my hair looked gorgeous! I can't believe it worked for me!

Now if I could only break myself of the blow fryer habit....
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Reply #26 - Jun 26th, 2006 at 5:57pm
 
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You can do it.  Just try to go one more day a week not using it.  After a week or two, add another day, and so on until you wonder why you have the thing to begin with!  (My blow dryer has not been used on hair for 15 years - but it works great for shrinking the plastic cork covers on the bottles of wine hubby makes!  Grin)
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Reply #27 - Jun 27th, 2006 at 3:21pm
 
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I, too, was born with reddish brown hair, and until recently it remained that way.  Now it seems I've lost most of my red highlights and I'm more of a chestnut or chocolate brown, I liked my reds! Cry

I am starting to sprout my first greys and I'm only approaching thirty this summer.  I don't need to dye (yet!), it's not much of a problem so far, it's just that I've been finding some full length 'silvers' lately, and some of those short wirey, crazy ones too...I don't like those ones at all!

That goth shampoo & conditioner sound pretty interesting, you've piqued my curiosity, so I think I'll have to check their site out and maybe get some samples.  Grin
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Reply #28 - Jun 28th, 2006 at 12:29pm
 
Last night I was feeling experimental  Roll Eyes and made a hair mask with mayo, honey and some essential oil. Slapped it on, wrapped the head in Saran Wrap and waited about two hours. Then I shampooed it out, conditioned and air-dried (yes!). My hair was voluminous, shiny and soft. Beautiful.

But this morning was the ultimate experiment. I CO'd (probably didn't need to since I did the mask last night, but I was nervous about going without for the day) with Suave Milk & Honey and Nexxus KeraPhix. Then I did the craziest thing I've ever done - I went to work, no blow-dry. I'd forgotten the lovely waves I had in my hair. I wasn't so sure this was a good idea when I first got to work (it looked a little off), but I just checked again and it looks nice. Wow. I might do it again tomorrow.

Bikerbraid, thanks for the encouragement to try it!
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Reply #29 - Jun 28th, 2006 at 1:45pm
 
Ooo, waves!  I bet that's really pretty...  Grin  Congrats on making it a day without the blowfryer...  Wink
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Reply #30 - Jun 28th, 2006 at 2:25pm
 
Yea!!  One more healthier day!
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Reply #31 - Jun 28th, 2006 at 7:40pm
 
Well, at 4:45 this afternoon things are not looking good. I have a greasy mess on my hands (not sure why that is) and my hair is a total mess. The wavy thing would be nice if my hair is longer, but right now, it's still bob length and I look like I never combed it (I've run a comb through it a couple of times today) and I never cleansed it. Ugh - back to square one. I'm pretty sure the messiness is from not blow drying (although I don't want to blow dry anymore though), but the grease - did I over condition? Yuck. Thank goodness the work day ends in, well, now 11 minutes and I can hide my hair under a hat for the rest of the day.

This growing/repairing hair business is not going well... Sad
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Reply #32 - Jun 29th, 2006 at 6:52pm
 
Today's a better day, but I must confess,  Embarrassed I blew my hair dry. It does look nicer, so maybe my one day off helped, even though I looked like I washed my hair in Crisco by last night.

On a much happier note - my Goth Rosary shampoo and conditioner arrived - scent: Crypt, which I like even more than Mayhem. I can't wait to do a CWC tomorrow morning. And maybe I'll be good and go without the blow-fry...
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Reply #33 - Jul 3rd, 2006 at 3:58pm
 
I have come to the conclusion I am obsessed with my hair. I've modifed the blow-fry routine now, where I blow it dry using the lowest setting possible, which gives me stylized wavies instead of the greasy, unkempt mess I had when I air-dryed. It's looking pretty good, using Goth Rosary's Crypt scented Hair Wash and Conditioner (it really does smell like the stones of a mausoleum - I like it  Wink )

I came to the obsession conclusion because I've hurt my neck. I have a bob that's getting longer, probably around two inches from the bottom of my neck. I have rheumatoid arthritis, so my joints bother me a lot. I've come to the realization that excessive flipping of one's hair apparently bothers one's neck joints  Embarrassed Cheesy Grin Not too smart, but I can't help it - I'm acting like I'm in a hair commercial all the time.
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Reply #34 - Jul 10th, 2006 at 3:25pm
 
I have a secret...

V05 was 88 cents at my grocery store. I bought Champagne Kiss shampoo and conditioner. My hair has looked and felt fabulous for the last three days I've been using it. I am quietly excited - could it be that I can have beautiful hair with 88 cent shampoo and conditioner? Could it be?!

I go for another hair eval/slight trim on the 29th. Still considering cancelling, though. My hair seems longer - I have to remeasure, though.
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88 cents!  Hey - go for it!
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Reply #36 - Jul 18th, 2006 at 3:39pm
 
Ugh, what a bad day. I am in a lot of pain (I have rheumatoid arthritis and humidity mixed with RA makes for sleepless nights and agonizing days) and had a hard time doing my hair. On the other hand, I'm having a fantastic hair day. My hair is soft, relatively straight (slight wave towards the bottom) and from the last measurement, definitely growing. I haven't updated in a while because growing from a bob into a long, flowing mane of fire takes a while  Grin and there's not too much to report.

So, basically, I posted so I could whine.  Embarrassed
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #37 - Jul 18th, 2006 at 8:36pm
 
lol Whine away, Eis! We don't mind. It's therapeutic.  Wink

A lot of us here have started or are starting from very short hair, so you're not alone. Everybody gets "whiny" between short & long. It's natural.  Grin
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #38 - Jul 19th, 2006 at 5:15am
 
I started from a bob too!  Had the bob for like 10 years.  Ugh, going from shoulder to BSL was the hardest part for me because my hair is so thick that it made me look top heavy (like I had football player shoulders or something.)  So whine away!  We'll understand.  Smiley
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #39 - Jul 19th, 2006 at 2:03pm
 
I'll bring the cheese if you bring the whine...  Wink
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #40 - Jul 28th, 2006 at 2:24pm
 
Thanks everyone!

OK, I cancelled my appointment. Since my last appointment, my hair has grown a bit, and it's looking and feeling pretty healthy. I decided to continue to let it grow, rather than set myself back.

I haven't done a deep conditioning treatment recently,though. It's been very humid here, so my hair's been a bit oily and I haven't really felt the need.
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #41 - Aug 20th, 2006 at 4:40pm
 
Just checking in . It's been almost a month since I posted. Hair's still looking decent. I'm much more careful with the blow fryer, when I use it, and my hair is looking better and longer with every passing day.
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Re: Desperate for a Fiery, Long Mane...
Reply #42 - Aug 21st, 2006 at 11:49am
 
Glad you stopped by and gave us an update.  Good to hear you are seeing good results with you hair.  Keep it up!
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