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Reply #210 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 1:13am
 
I have noticed something disturbing to me today. My singing voice appears to have.. gone. died... dissapeared. I don't know if I've simply not been practicing enough, but I need to recover it. For many years(from age 11, roughly, on) My voice has been the one identifying bit that made me, me. Through everything I have been through, everywhere I've seen... Singing kept me pulled together. Learning to put my emotions into song brought me back from the brink of doing something even stupider and more harmful that I did. ... And now it seems it's left me. I was singing along to a CD, one that I could previously sing every song as if it were me on the CD instead (I'm a good mimic, amongst other things)... but today it wasn't even close. I'm.. I'm scared. What if it's gone irrepararably... I dont' think I've done anything that would ruin my voice, but... what if I have? I've been off for a while, and today just brought it home.

All I can hope is that with regular practice, and doing basic exercises again, I'll regain what is rightfully mine. Otherwise I've lost the major part of who I am.  Cry
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Reply #211 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 2:58am
 
Okay, I have a masters degree in voice, so trust me here.  DO NOT FORCE YOUR VOICE TO DO ANYTHING!  Believe me, I understand the terror you are experiencing.  I once strained my voice and it didn't come back for ONE MONTH.  I felt that fear.  I understand what it means for your voice to be your identity as well.  It will come back.  There are several things that might have caused it, and several things you can do. 

First, exhaustion is a cause of laryngitis.  I know you didn't say there was something wrong with your speaking voice, but I have noticed that things show up in my singing voice first.  So getting enough rest is step one.

Allergies, or any kind of drainage, can cause swelling of the cords which will also affect your singing voice.  The thing you do not want to do is strain a cord that is already having a problem.  So while practicing is a good idea, it won't help if you haven't been asking your voice to do anything unusual.  You will only create a greater problem.

Hydration is key.  Sometimes I find myself having a problem if I have been drinking too many sodas.  Many of the vocalists at the university carried gallon jugs of water.  So make sure you drink lots of water and avoid caffeine.

I would only start back with my exercises only when my voice was functioning normally.  Then start slow.  Vocal cords are quite delicate, and you don't want nodes. 

My favorite remedy when I am having vocal trouble is hot mint tea with honey and lemon.  I don't know why, but there is something about that combination that just seems to speed the healing process.

I hope this helps.
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Reply #212 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 5:08am
 
I was going to comment that I think vocal exercises are a great idea because I go through the same thing when I haven't sung in awhile.  I used to sing all throughout my school years in chorus and had often found myself in singing groups with friends.  Now that I no longer use my singing voice regularly, I typically have to do vocal exercises to get it back on track but then I read this...

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Vocal cords are quite delicate, and you don't want nodes.
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Um okay, now I'm slightly frightened.  How would one know if they had nodes? Undecided


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Reply #213 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 9:44am
 
TT, I think you've given me my answer... I'm not big on water, usually I'll either drink tea or some sort of soda... Lately it's been soda more often than not. I've never had problems with allergies, but then again, Louisiana's got a lot of plants and things that I've never even heard of, much less seen. Maybe taking Claritin would help? Not to mention, on Paul's crazy arse schedule, I'm never sure if I'm going to have 4 or 12 hours sleep in a given night. I try to sleep whenever I get a chance though... *is catlike in her ability to sleep anywhere and everywhere* I'm thinking it can't be exhaustion as much as possible allergies(now that I think about it my nose has been stuffier than usual), probable dehydration, and most likely, disuse. * wanders off to make a cup of tea and go back to sleep for an hour*
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Reply #214 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 11:37am
 
I certainly did not mean to scare anybody.  If your voice is just rusty (mine certainly is; I haven't done any serious singing in two years) then doing exercises is certainly a good idea.  The impression I got from Kiraela was that her voice had vanished without explanation.  That implied some sort of pathology to me.  In that case, exercises would hurt, not help.  

Nodes will do different things depending on where they are.  They are the equivalent of vocal calluses; small, knobby, whitish growths on the cords.  Folds, I should say, since that is really what they are.  Nodes can result from chronic abuse or a single traumatic event, although typically from the first and not the second.  You will get a breathiness in the tone and your voice just doesn't work properly.  I googled "vocal nodes symptoms" and found some good stuff, including some causes I hadn't remembered (like alcohol) and some I didn't know (hibiscus is a dessicant, so hibiscus tea won't help.)  Some people like their nodes, as they give them a distinctive sound.  

The only REAL way to tell if you have nodes is to go to a laryngologist, who will stick a camera down your throat and ask you to speak or sing.  This test was VERY expensive back in the nineties and I would be surprised if insurance covered it.  

From what you said, La Diosa, it doesn't sound like you have nodes or are doing anything to cause them.  Relax.   Smiley

Kiraela, antihistamines are a catch-22.  On the one hand, they prevent the drainage irritating the cords.  On the other, they do this by drying you out.  If you are not experiencing significant symptoms, I wouldn't bother with them.
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Reply #215 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 2:41pm
 
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You will get a breathiness in the tone and your voice just doesn't work properly


That.. that is exactly a description of what's wrong. It's like certain notes just... don't come out. it's pretty much the same couple of notes every time (didn't figure out which two or three), ... it's like there's a raspy sound rather than the actual tone, I can make it come out but I have to push(if that makes sense)... And I'm pretty sure pushing it is BAD.

and of course, I have not got the money to go to a doctor Sad So that recourse is out of the question.

I wonder if living with smokers all my life could have anything to do with it? Before I moved in with Paul, at least my bedroom was a smoke free zone... Now well... not so much.
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Reply #216 - Jul 23rd, 2007 at 9:34pm
 
What part of your range are you losing?  If it's the upper, no problem, you're just out of shape.  If it's on your break (the part of the voice where you shift from chest register to head register, typically B or C1) you might still just be out of shape or you might have a problem.  If it's in the middle of your chest or head registers, then you might have a problem.    If the last one is true, read the rest of this.  If the first one is true, just start practicing and doing your exercises.  If the second one is true, I can't say which it might be without hearing you.  Maybe you can find a good vocal teacher and see what they think.  Since the doctor is out of the question (Understand that one, believe me!) then here is what I recommend.

First of all, you are absolutely right, pushing is BAD!  What is happening is that the folds don't want to come together, and you are forcing them to do so through the increase in volume.  Second, living with the smokers certainly doesn't help, but I don't think it caused your problem.  It just might be interfering with the resolution.  

Do you have acid reflux?  I went to the doctor about my voice about three years ago and she said that I have acid reflux at night, which was preventing my folds from healing from an episode of abuse.  Treating the acid reflux will help the voice heal.

Can you think of an incident of yelling, at a sports event or maybe when you dropped a can on your toe?  A huge fight you had with someone, or a time you got really excited or scared?  The reason I am asking is because you want to avoid that behavior in the future, if possible.  (Yes, when you drop the can on your toe, from now on you will calmly say, "Oh dear" rather than yelling "*%&#!")      

Some conditions, such as polyps, can mimic nodes.  They are all resolved with rest.  So rest your voice as much as you can.  I would say no singing of any kind for at least a month.

Now I understand that is like asking you to temporarily remove your toes, but if you have a problem it is necessary.  Just tell yourself that you've got forty more years of your life (in my case; you've probably got more) and this is one month of not singing out of the next forty years.

Now of course, you probably have just a temporary condition due to allergies or something else.  Since I am not a doctor and haven't seen you, I can't say.  And I certainly don't mean to scare you.  But I know that resting your voice can't hurt you, and that not resting it can.  So rest it, drink water, treat your acid reflux if you have it, and try singing again in a month.

 
 
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Reply #217 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 6:41pm
 
It's in the upper range, thankfully - my low range is actually better than usual. Maybe I'm mutating into an alto? Is that even possible?

The last time I can remember screaming, yelling, etc. was about 3 1/2 years ago... I've never been a loud person... I 've never been one to scream about much of anything... quiet rage, rather than yelling at anyone... and heh... I once cut my thumb to the bone washing dishes... looked at the wound, and said, "well that's not good" before wrapping it in a clean dish towel and going to get stitches.
   Actually that's been my biggest struggle.. The first time I talked to the choir director / voice teacher at my friend's church(about 4 years ago), he commented that it doesn't do any good to have a good voice, if no one five feet away can hear me! Shocked  Of course, since I've moved 3 times since then, I can't go to Alex for advice anymore.

I don't have any sort of acid reflux problem, at least none that I know of.

It's upper range of my voice, so I should be fine practicing, right? Otherwise all of my favorite CDs are going to have to be temporarily retired. I hear a song I know and can't help singing along... of course, I know every word to every song in my "favorites" cd case...
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Reply #218 - Jul 24th, 2007 at 11:54pm
 
I still think we are talking a mild laryngitis.  "Itis" just means inflammation, and I think part of your vocal folds are inflammed.  Probably due to allergies, since you mentioned you have recently moved and noticed your nose is stuffier than usual.  It isn't severe, so you don't notice a difference with your speaking voice or even all of your singing voice.  I have had episodes of laryngitis where I lost only my middle range, but not the upper or lower.

I still would recommend drinking lots of water, both to flush the allergens and hydrate the voice, and I would take the singing VERY SLOWLY.  Do not push, do not strain.  I would work on sustaining exercises rather than range exercises.  For example, ah-eh-ee-oh-oo-mah-meh-mee-moh-moo-lah-leh-lee-loh-loo all sung on one pitch and in one breath.  Start at least a fifth below your trouble spots and ease in to them.  At the first sign of trouble, stop.

And really, I still would not sing AT ALL for at least one week, all the while drinking that water!  Let me know what happens.

Oh that's right, you don't like water.  Hmmm.  Non-hibiscus, non-caffeinated tea okay?   
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Reply #219 - Jul 25th, 2007 at 1:38pm
 
Actually decaff sweet tea is what I've been drinking! Accidentally got the decaff box instead of the regular, but it's just as good and doesn't make me hyper. I've started taking claritin and was shocked... hey, I can breathe again! I will take your advice and not sing for a week... That's going to be hard. *hides the celtic knot cd case* As long as I get my voice back, it will be worth it.

OTher: Joeydog, the DEEP condtitioner is in the post office waiting for me, but the postmaster was out for lunch so ... it will be later today or tomorrow before I get it. *odd note, there are some crazy people around here... At the post office, there was a woman all sorts of peeved because she couldn't get... whatever it was... and somehow decided to blame Hillary Clinton for the fact that the postmaster went to lunch.  Huh

Ah,. yes. got a hair compliment from the chief of police today.  Grin  Of course, this is such a small town that he's also the owner of the only towing company, mechanic's shop, and junk yard.

I'm also starting to think that I should take paul's dad up on the offer to teach me 'lost wax' casting, and make a pewter brooch in the shape of one of those nametags: "hi, my name is:..." LOL When I was younger, I was 'steven's little sister'... now I'm 'ms. paul', or 'paul's girlfriend'... I can only imagine that when I have kids I will become known as "kidX's mom"  *sigh*
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Reply #220 - Jul 25th, 2007 at 11:06pm
 
Let me know what you think of the Deep K.  Sorry, just too tired to say anything more.

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Reply #221 - Jul 26th, 2007 at 9:44pm
 
It's always something.  Going into the same profession as my mother has been both a blessing and not so much a blessing.  On the one hand, she can call up all sorts of contacts and say, "My daughter and her husband are looking for jobs."  On the other, I am STILL "Virginia's daughter" at 42!
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Reply #222 - Jul 26th, 2007 at 10:45pm
 
youch.  All I know is, I hate it when anyone references my brother in describing me... I just hope that people realize I'm not ANYTHING like him. My parents even seem to forget that at times... hmm, steve's calling asking for money again, probably K. will need some too. I hate that they think I need money from them... but then again, on the other hand I get free money.  Undecided

On another note, i wish I were on whatever army base it is in CO right now... *wants to smack her brother with a rolling pin* less than two weeks after getting married, he was caught cheating on my sister in law(the mother of his two children) when he dissapeared during a party he was throwing AT HIS OWN HOUSE. Sorry for the rant, I'm just a little... peeved... Angry with him right now.

Didn't get a ride to the post office today, so no DEEP conditioner. Tomorrow we're going to New Orleans to pick up some parts... I'll see if I can get Paul to take me by the PO. on the way home. Fun thing is.... the starter in our truck has been... hit or miss... since it was installed 5 mo ago. The past few days it's been having to be push started any time it moves. It's going to be fun in the city tomorrow............ Undecided
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Reply #223 - Jul 28th, 2007 at 10:15pm
 
Well, we didn't turn off the truck anywhere in NO, yesterday... left it running with me in it outside the iron supplier, and that was it... we drove through the french quarter, paul showed me where we WOULD have stopped to eat if it weren't raining and the truck would start, and pointed out a couple of friends' apartments (along with a REALLY nice couple of shops I wish I had an extra 500$ or so to spend at...), ST. Louis cathedral and Jackson square(and some VERY peeved mules pulling mule carts(rain, remember?)) and then we turned around and headed home. I don't know why, but when we were in the quarter... I felt like I'd come home. As if that's where I'm supposed to be and why on earth am I not? I wonder if it has that feeling to everyone who goes there. Of course, most people who are in the quarter either ALREADY live there, or are so drunk they can't feel much of anything except the concrete against their faces. Well, I guess I'm being unfair... that's mostly only during Mardi Gras... and weekends... And they don't typically go more than two or three streets in before it gets confusing.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #224 - Jul 29th, 2007 at 4:59pm
 
My mother gets that feeling in the French Quarter.  I, on the other hand, do not, and did not understand what she meant until I went to Vienna.  Then it was as if something deep in my soul said, "Yes.  This is home."

I have always wondered if it was because I had been staying in the Austrian mountains, which bothered me a lot.  I am not from the mountainous part of Texas, and the lack of horizons coupled with the tall buildings and narrow streets in Graz made me feel claustrophobic.  Vienna is in a flatter part of Austria and the streets are wider.  So I have always wanted to go back and see if Vienna spoke to me like it did before. 

I had a similar feeling when I went to Saudi Arabia.  Not "this is home" but "you are meant to be right here, right now."  Those feelings are weird when you get them.  But kind of cool, too.
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