Ok, so I found some chinese food take out chopsticks that I had saved in a drawer (no idea why, can't I can't eat with them to save my life) but I sanded them with a nail file, painted them with some nail polish and figured I'd experiment with them. I started sunday morning beings I don't have to do my hair for work monday, until sometime sunday night. Anyway I'm sure they are not real styles, but I actually got it to stay! I shocked the heck outta me. I have really thick hair that is curly so at this length elaborate stuff is impossible. I did this kind of bun thing and this twisty thing that I think is similar to what you guys call a peacock. Anyway, I got them to stay I have this one one bun-like thing that I have had in for a few hours now. I wonder if it is easier to get the sticks to stay with curly thick hair. Because I couldn't twist the stick going the other way to secure because I have so much hair but I was able to just slide it through the other side and it stays. I am sure I will get better with fancier designs and also having my hair get longer won't hurt but I am just so excited that I actually got it to stay.

Thanks! I had this pretty decent bun going with both chopsticks too and it felt secure. I was also able to put my head back which is often a challenge for me. Like when I have my hair twisted up in a clip and I'm driving I can't lean my head on the head rest because the clip stabs me but with the twist I did with the sticks the sticks were up higher and all that was behind me was hair so I was comfortable. They didn't take a million years to do either, and surprisingly enough they didn't seem to ruin my curls I just had to re-fluff them. That is great because I have to throw it up to eat and I can do that and then take it down when I'm finished. Also now that I am entering that annoying stage of hair growth and the summer is coming I have a feeling this will help out. I can finally break-free of the scrunchi!