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Reply #240 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 5:38am
 
You're welcome. As for your sis, I hope she has...um, news.

I'm sorry to hear about all the crap you have to put up with at work. I would have been seriously pissed if I were in your shoes and had been passed over for a promotion despite putting in 80 hours a week. I hope things end up working out in the end.

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Reply #241 - Sep 25th, 2007 at 7:36pm
 
Again, thanx Juri.  I still haven't spoken to my sister.  That is because if I do, I have to have 2 hours to give her.  She talks a lot when she is drunk...which is all non-working or sleeping hours.  Sigh.  Don't think me mean. I tried to help her.  Me ex was a recovering alcoholic and even he gave up on her after time.  In AA they say 'never say never about a drunk quitting".  He figures never.   Sad..but I cannot change it.

Work:  well, I decided to speak with a colleague who is a level higher than me but a cool guy.  I just needed to vent.  Now he is not in my section (there are 4 toxicology sections) so I figured I was safe.  Gawd.  It turns out he just became an Acting Section Head...which means...well, I spoke of my superiors in the last email...but like me they are evaluation officers...the next step up is a Section Head who oversees the work of all the evaluators.  An Acting Section Head is someone who fills in for a section head because they are away of...say French training (important here in Canada) or maternity or whatever.  So, while this guy is not my boss, he is her equivalent...and I thought I was just talking to a fellow worker who is cool and experienced. 

So, I tell him my woes and he says "As an Acting Section Head..." and my head goes down on the desk and I go "Oh God, I didn't know that!!!!  Oh man!!".  Now I said he was cool.  He just laughed, patted me on the head and said "Relax, nobody could do all that work!!!  But as an Acting Section Head, I can help you." 

Now let me try to explain something else on the short.  I said there are 4 groups of toxicologists.  2 of us review and evaluate new pesticides.  2 evaluate and review old pesticides (the idea being that because our knowledge grows and so our demands become higher, we can relook at older pesticides based on new knowledge in the science field and our goal...but this has only been going on for about 7-10 years...is to re-review all chemicals every 5 years).  Now please understand, I have really over simplified this to keep it short.  Trust me, this is all great for the environment and for our citizens.

Anyway, I am in the area of reviewing and assessing new pesticided as is the colleague I spoke with.  Anyway, he is Acting Section Head for a re-eval area.  He told me that he felt that the re-eval could use learning to document more and that his group had no deadlines as tight as mine so he would offer his whole section (5 evaluators) to help me and he would teach them how to do it the way we do!!!  In other words, he will help me AND improve our system.   I love this guy!!!  He is just too cool.  And smart....gawd I wish I was as smart.  Now I should say this...this does not mean that all of re-eval does not document as well as us.  The second re-eval folks have over 10 years of experience (each person) doing what I do before they went into re-eval.  They are amazing.  It is just that my colleagues section is made of fairly new people who did not do the original reviews.  I should also point out that my colleague is very picky an he is acting for a woman who did what I did for 20 years before the re-eval area was born.    What I am saying...the reviews are all good, just the documentation could be better.

Hair:  I am feeling icky about it but not a surprise I guess.  I have a chest cold...you know...the type where your chest hurts when you breath, lie down, use any energy, etc.  I know I sound like I am sick all the time but remember, I was away from people for 8 months due to my mental health and my immune system is low.  It will get back up there.  Just give it time...an no, I am not taking time off.  I have warned people to stay away from me so I hope not to spread it especially since for the next two weeks only one of the 6 cubicles that surrounds me has anyone in it.  And that is occupied by Mike.  I should tell you all about Mike one day.  He is like the class clown.  He is fun to have next to me.

LOL, he stresses about nothing but I stress about everything.  We have been office mates for 5 years.  I watched him move in with his girl and marry her.  No stress for him.  Work never stresses him.  BUT he was terrified about having a kid.  He wanted one...was just really scared. His wife wanted a pug and he asked me one day to help him find a good pug.  So I started doing that with him but being an ex-vet I asked a lot of questions and discovered he hoped getting a pug would slow his wife down on the idea of a kid.  WhenI realized this, with him sitting next to me, I started to LAUGH.  I mean I laughed so hard everyone in my area heard.  They all asked me what was so funny and I told them I would tell them one day..but not today.  I then turned to Mike and told him "Hon, you are having a baby and getting a pug!!!  Except it!!!"

He has a 3 month old daugher, still no pug.  LOL.  A month ago he and his wife asked me to look into a good pug for them to get.  Today Mike came and told me his wife wants a second child as soon as possible.  I had my hands on the keyboard looking for a pug and stopped and said "Pug or not?"  He said l "Do you think if she gets the pug..."  I started typing again and said "Sooner or later you will have 2 kids and a pug."  He said "Ya, I guess".  Now don't take that wrong, he LOVES the kid and dogs.   He asked me if I thought, well you get it    So cute.  Jealous.  But he makes me smile.  I like to smile.  No, no interest, he is like a kid brother to me.
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Reply #242 - Sep 26th, 2007 at 8:36am
 
You're welcome, Joeydog I don't have any sibs so I can only imagine what a pain it would be to have a sister like that. I don't think you're mean at all.

Glad you're going to get some help at work! Oh, pugs. They're so weirdly cute, but the shedding is something else.
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Reply #243 - Sep 26th, 2007 at 8:29pm
 
Well, a pug would not be my choice...but the woman wants what she wants!!!

Hair:  thought it was doing okay.  I woke up at 2 am last night (morning) and could not get back to sleep so at 2:45 I got up and did the 30 minutes of animal chores.  That left me free until 4:00 to do anything with regard to getting ready for work (did some house cleaning inbetween).  At 4 I went and washed my face, brushed my teeth, moisturized my face and then I let my hair down from my satin sox....OMG, hair was SOOO greasy.  Into the shower I went!!

I think this is what happened.  I mentioned before I love the Body Shop cocoa butter.  Well, I was running out and I called to check on getting some (I have to drive 100 km out of my way for it!!) and was stunned to find that it was now $22 for 6.0 oz!!!  Heck, when I started buying it 2 years ago it was $14!!!.  So, as you all know, I am not doing great financially for now...I had to bow out and turned to what I had in my own house.  Well, I had pure cocoa butter and 28 000 IU vitamin E, so I combined the two and found it better (and cheaper) than the Body Shop stuff I love so much!!! Now the problem is that is is kinda greasy (but the skin takes it in within 5 minutes and smells so great....umm chocolate cravings).  I think that last night I moisturized and immediately combed my hair (during that ritual I tend to run my free hand down my hair after I comb...don't ask me why) and then I spent the time gathering it between my two hands into a pony tail to put on the satin sox.  In short, I think I over greased my hair by accident!!!!!  Lesson learned!!!

About the Body Shop.  It was bought by a new company recently (I think Lauriel?).  I loved their cream (and it has not changed) but I refuse to pay that much money for a body cream when I have found a combination that works just as well for less!!!!!  I also love the cocoa butter body wash...but it has gone up way too much too.  Just not sure how to compensate for that.  ALSO, because I do not have a man in my life to rub cream into the skin on my back, I loved the coconut oil spray that I could just spray on my back...which is discontinued.   I guess I am back to my boycott of the Body Shop though.

You wonder why I boycotted it?  Very fair question.  Remember what I do for a living.  Anything that touches a human MUST be tested and approved by the gov't (well at least in the 'civilized' world).  That means the pesticides I do, the prescription drugs I used to do, the house house cleaners you use, the foods you eat...I mean everything.  Body Shop made me mad because they said they did not test on animals.  That was true...but only because they used things OTHER companies had had tested on animals and then approved by the gov't. 

Now, don't get me wrong...I love that they did not create new things that had to be tested and kill animals...I mean...how many animals have to die before we figure out a good moisturizer or cleaner or whatever!!  Understand that while my job does involve companies sacrficing animals...I want no more sacrifice than is REQUIRED.  There are GREAT cosmetic things out there...no more animals need to be sacrificed.  But the Body Shop implied that the ingredients in their recipes for poos, conditioners, etc, had never been animal tested, while the truth was...all the ingredients had been tested previously...at another companies expense!!  True,THEY did not animal test.  It made me mad.  If you aren't following...how would you like to use a moisturizer all over your body that might be a carcinogen, cause reproductive problems, liver failure, etc...in order to save about 100 (in total) rats, mice  and bunnies..and I hate to admit it...about 20 dogs.  Believe me...I would save them all if I could...but then we would all die.  That is reality.

Anyway, Body Shop was the first and now every where does it so I stopped boycotting them...but now I think I am boycotting them for the prices they are charging!!!  Heck, an almost 100% increase in 2 years!!!  Figured out my moisturizer...guess I will have to find another body shampoo though!!  No ideas...anyone got one?

JD

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Reply #244 - Sep 27th, 2007 at 8:32am
 
The Body Shop does WHAT?! That sucks. The claims about no animal testing seem a bit underhanded now. I have to wonder about my own supposedly "cruelty-free" shampoo and conditioner (not from the Body Shop).

Not sure about the body shampoo. Have you heard of Chagrin Valley Soap? They don't make body shampoo, but I've heard that their bar soaps are really moisturizing and you can order sample bars for about $2 each. I was thinking of ordering some from them after my *sigh* Body Shop lavender body wash runs out. However, if you have hard water, there's a chance the bars will feel wonky on your skin.
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Reply #245 - Sep 27th, 2007 at 10:51am
 
I use to use Body Shop, but they got really exspensive.  Eww they got bought by Loreal?  Well the owner of Body Shop just died so that answers that eh?  I've been to Loreal head office and found that they have lots of brands under there belt and it's all the same stuff just in different packages.  Tongue
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Reply #246 - Sep 27th, 2007 at 9:14pm
 
Lisabelle,

Yes, I believe it was Loreal (and I am so ashamed I spelt it so incorrectly last night...I thought of that while I was brushing my teeth at 4 am but did not have time to fix it before I went to work!!).

Juri,

A lot of companies make this claim now...but if you live in Canada, the EU, Australia or the US (and probably many other places but those I know for sure) the law REQUIRES that the ingredients in a product that touches a human are tested on animals.  Now let me try to explain how companies get away with not testing on animals.

Lets talk...eye liner to make it easy.  Now, eyeliner can get into your eyes and anything you put on your skin can be absorbed into your system.  Going into your eyes, IF it is not safe, could cause a lot of problems.  Think putting ammonia in your eyes!!!  Not good.  Will damage your eyes.  Equally, the skin absorbes things and gets it into your blood and causes trouble.  I am trying to think of an example that everyone would know...but I can't because they are pretty regulated. 

Now of course, we would all say that we would rather a bunny (which is what is used for eye tests since they are closest to humans with regards to eyes) be tested on rather than us being the .. well...guinea pigs (which are used for some tests).  But you see, eyeliner is common and we have tested it for years on bunnies so why does any company need to come up with new formulations that need to be tested? 

Now, I now work with pesticides so we talk about technical grade actives (TGAI's) and formulants which in presciptions meds is medicinal or non-medicinal ingredients.  An example of a formulant or a non-medicinal ingredient is water.  So, my point is, for these formulants or non-medicinal ingredients...there is no need for further animal testing (because water is just the simplest example...but look on your labels...it is always there in makeup or hair products).  We know these are safe.  It is the TGAI or medicinal ingredient we worry about.  I am not sure what the techinical term would be for makeup, hair or body stuff...but you are getting the idea.  Anyway, to really simplify this, we only worry about a new chemical in products that is not previously investigated (but that is really simplifying because think of mixing bleach and laundry detergent together (both not too harmful) and the problems that arise with fumes, inluding death...so sometimes we do have to look at formulants mixes with actives so I am really simplifying here).

BUT, my point is, while medications and pesticides have to be checked all the time because we are always looking for better cures for..cancer, diabetes...etc or trying to find a way to keep crops healthy and fruitful (no, I do not agree with pesticides for cosmetic reasons) so we all have food...with the thousands of types of proven cosmetic out there...why do we need to sacrifice any more animals for woman's vanity!!!!!!

The Body Shop was honest.  I will give them that.  THEY did not test what their products because other companies had paid to test the 'formulants or non medicinal' ingredients they use.  10 years ago it made me angry they made this claim, because everything in their products HAS been tested on animals...just not by them.  I stopped boycotting them because everyone started using this claim...but none have ever admitted that what they use was once tested on animals...but on the other hand...while these companies are wording things to infer that testing was NEVER done on animals...I am sure as heck not going to a company that is still testing on animals when there is more than enough info for cosmetics already. 

So, I think it is great that companies are not testing on animals anymore, but I hate when they infer that no animal testing has ever been done of the ingredients.  In fact, if I hit a company that could honestly tell me that the ingredients in their cosmetics have NEVER been on animals...I would run as fast as I could...and I would with a company that is still testing today.

Juri, stick with what you are doing...but remember that they are sorta decieving you since the ingredients should have been tested on animals at some point!!

So, if you all like that...lets talk 'organic food' tomorrow if you are interested.  You might be shocked.  I will need to do a touch of homework but I could still write paragraphs on that.  Let me give a lead into it to see if you are all interested.  All of us have done science in school, whether we were interested or not (which you can tell I was and many others here are too I know) but the basic lesson in like grade 7 science was organic = anything that contains carbon.  Do you really think that adding a pesticide to the mix takes all the carbon out of a veggie, a crop or animal?  Oh please!!!  I can't figure why they used the term 'organic' except to tantilize people since it is organic with or without the pesticide!!!  Talk about using wording to suck people in.

And to really tantilize you...remember a few years ago (well in North America) low fat had to be defined by the gov't because everyone was saying their things were low fat...but only compared to the orginal as opposed to a strict set standard for what was considered low fat (later set by the gov'ts)?  Yup, you guessed it...same with organic...pesticides MIGHT still be being used on you 'organic' food but at much lower doses!!


Leave you with that...

JD
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Reply #247 - Sep 29th, 2007 at 4:56am
 
Wow, thanks so much for explaining that, JD! It was quite interesting to read. I guess I feel a bit better about my hair products, but still a little sad for the animals (though I do realize that animal testing is needed for other things).

I think I remember hearing about the term "organic" doesn't automatically mean pesticide-free. I wouldn't mind reading a bit more about that--but only if you have time. I know you're really busy so don't feel like you need to write a huge, long thing about it.
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Reply #248 - Sep 29th, 2007 at 11:49am
 
Juri,

Feel good about using cosmetics (face, hair and moistusers) that are not tested on animals.  There is NO NEED for us to test those things anymore...there are more than enough on the market that are tested!!!!

I have not had time to check into the stats on organic stuff.  I will soon though.  I did a whole input on my journal about health food places...so I will not repeat it...but 'organic' falls under the same heading...which means...you cannot be sure about what you are buying.  ALWAYS look for a DIN number on vitamin supplements.  ALWAYS check with your pharmacist about using natural products if you are on meds.  Example:  Acutane is a med commonly used to prevent  acne.  The presciption is VERY high in Vit A.  You can go into a health store and get tea, supplements, etc that have Vitamin A in them....which would have caused on overdose in a natural thing...vit A...and could kill someone.  Most people that work in a health food store have a high school education or less.  They are not qualified to tell you if a natural product will interact with any medications you are on.  A phamacist can.  Always check with your phamacist before you put a natural product into your mix.  Remember....Penicillin comes from mold and is, therefore, natural.  Look at all the problems it can cause. 

Anyway...been awake for over 24 hours...need to sleep.

Before I go ..hair:  my psoriasis is bugging me so I will be doing the oily treatment and the harsh poo all weekend.  Yuk.  I am going to do a deep condition treatment later today (Curly 64 recipe) before I wash the crap for the psorasis treatment  Take care all.

JD
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Reply #249 - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 7:26am
 
Don't worry about getting info about organic stuff or feel like you have to get it in the near future. If you have time, great! If you find that you can't get around to it, that's totally fine too! I don't want you to feel pressured or anything about this.

I'll definitely have to do a search for your entry on health food stores. It sounds like something I'd want to read. And thanks for the info you wrote in Sept. 30th's entry!
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Reply #250 - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 7:38pm
 
Well, turns out I have pneumonia.  Not contagious so I can continue to go to work...as I have no leave...but such is the case for most of the world...not having leave I mean.  Obviously that will take all my energy soooo for yet another week, I will not be able to check the journals of my friends...been so long, I do not even get notifications anymore!  Feel terrible about that.  Gawd I am going to have  alot of reading!!!  I do care and want to read...thank God it is a long weekend in Canada next weekend.

Have I mentioned I have the best folks in the world????  When I first became ill and hit financial obligations...they covered me...and told meif I have not paid it back by the time they die...I owe my siblings!!!  I'snt that cool?  Have this rotten feeling I will owe my siblings.  Would rather pay folks to they can travel...but life is what it is and the folks are just tooooooo cool.

Sooo, when I told them I was sick and going to the doc today...they grouped together (yea, I am fortunate because they are still together) .  They showed up at 9 am (I had  to leave for doc at 10 am) with soup and meals for me AND...get this Dad was taking me to the doc while mum did my house cleaning!!!  Now, I have kept up with bathrooms, kitchens, dusting, vacuuming and that sort  of thing, but while dad and I were out mum cleaned widows, window sills, marks on walls, floor boards and stuff like that.  Some of you fortunate types might have folks like that...but even if you are that fortunate..I think we have the BEST PARENTS IN THE WORLD!!!!  I have ALWAYS said my folks are the best.  They have helped all three of us through hard times (emontionally and financially) plus they do a lot of extras like this.  They are great folks!!!!  Remember as I tell you what they did for me today, they are both in their 70's.  I challenge anyone to tell me they are not great folks and what we (should we have kids) aspire to be!!!!  Some folks cannot afford the moeny...and make no mistake, my folks are not rich but get buy...but even the poorist of folks...for them to give the time to clean my house and take me to the doc at their age...isn't that just tooooooo cool?  That they can and will afford to help me financially is GREAT...but I now I am fortunate that way.  But they give their time and effort too.


One lucky gal.  Too bad my drunkered sister doesn't get it.

Hair:  Well, having been sick...it is not doing great.  I  kept up with the psoriasis yuchy oil treatment longer than I would have had I been going to work.  Psoriasis...well...doing ok.  Hair always loves the oily treatment involved with the psoriasis...still have to check what the oily vehicle is for the med since my hair seems to love it.  Let me tell you though....it means a SERIOUS commercial poo after using!!!!

Skin:  Well, the psoriasis on my skin was doing ok until I got a big itch and caused a scap on my leg (BAD BAD GIRL since I scratched).    The medication is good but I have found that my 50/50 mix of cocoa butter/vitamin E was GREAT for it...but I ran out of cocao butter.  See, here in Canada, 7 0z of pure cocoa butter costs about $14.  I am shipping in 5 lbs of pure cocoa butter plus 14 bars of cocoa butter wash bars for about $70...(ya, you can see the savings) that will be in by Friday...but my skin is complaining until then.  Do any of you know where I can get 28 000 IU vitamin E cheap?

That is all I have to say.  Life is good...expept that I am single and not expecting a baby...LOL...but that is not a surprise.  LAUGH...IT WAS A JOKE!!!  Ok..sorta joke...wish I was but not surprising  anyone, including me down, because I am not!!!  Sigh. Laugh with me folks...I need to laugh that I do not have a child at my age.

Hope to get to your journals on the long weekend ( next weekend is Thanksgiving for Canada)...but cannot promise.  Doing Dad's 76th B-day on Friday and Thanksgiving on Saturday...here at my house next weekend.  So long weekend might fly by.  Miss you all.  REALLY not ignoring you....just sooooo busy and sick because my immune system  is down.

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Reply #251 - Oct 3rd, 2007 at 3:55am
 
JD,I hope you feel better soon,girl!!!  Take care of yourself!!!
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Reply #252 - Oct 3rd, 2007 at 5:19am
 
I'm sorry to hear you're sick! I hope you get better soon!!!

Yep, I think your parents are super cool!
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Reply #254 - Oct 3rd, 2007 at 8:12am
 
Hope you are feeling better soon.  Sounds like you have wonderful parents - you are very fortunate.
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